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Plastic might be making us obese

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Re: Plastic might be making us obese

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what does pumpernickel have to do with sugar?

Its very high acidity dough combined with its long, low bake makes the starches break down into sugars more compared to other breads.

Thanks

Re: Plastic might be making us obese

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This is absurd. The authors should look at what some people (or perhaps they themselves, and that's the issue) have in their trolley (cart?) next time they're shopping (storing? ;)). Obesity is, for at least the most part, plainly not caused by too many/wrong pesticides on fruit and vegetables. It is caused by (far) too many things that are not fruits and vegetables.

This is an utterly naive assessment: To answer the question of "why are people obese" with "not eating enough fruits and vegetables" completely ignores that all the research that demonstrates that it's simply not true. Why do obese people rapidly gain weight after losing it, even with diets that wouldn't cause normal weight people to gain any weight? Why do obese people seem to be simply more hungry than normal weigh…

Why is '"not eating enough fruits and vegetables"' quoted? I didn't say that. I said 'too many things which are not fruits and vegetables'.

Alternatively: too many plastic-packaged things; the plastic is not what's wrong with them.

Re: Plastic might be making us obese

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That shouldn’t help unless they know effective ways to stay fit. According to the article that’s avoiding microplastics, which is not what Asian mothers are harassing their daughters into doing.

Effective ways to stay fit is not eating a lot of food, it’s pretty straightforward.

That‘s not what the article says.

Re: Plastic might be making us obese

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> If I didn’t work to avoid shame, it’s very likely I’d be a lot more miserable and a lot less successful. Ok, I am not going to say that is incorrect or anything; you know you far better than any internet strangers. I would say that having a motivation which is based on avoiding negative outcome rather than being drawn towards positive outcome is by definition an unhealthy motivation, and that's my point about shame…

What's the difference between wanting to be fit, and not wanting to be fat? Wanting to be rich, or not wanting to be poor? Yet you're calling one healthy, and the other one producing unhappiness.

the motivation is either good or bad, and that matters a lot.

this isn't a door which can be pushed from one side or pulled from the other to achieve the same result. motivation and the reasons you are doing something matter. a lot.

imagine you are a slave working a field so you can eat, vs a farmer working a field so you can eat. do you really believe there is no difference? the difference is effectively infinite.

Re: Plastic might be making us obese

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If your countrymen allow you to make it to a "600lbs life" without abject comment, then they have done you a disservice; certainly you're bound to feel more shame and discomfort dealing with being in that state.

Everyone on my mother’s side of the family are obese. Extremely obese. They all told me that it would happen to me due to genetics. They never mentioned their sedentary lifestyles or the packs of cigarettes or the 2 liters of soda they consumed each day. I was so ashamed of them growing up that I was motivated to never allow myself to become that way.

that's not shame, that is positive reinforcement via negative example.

shame is something put upon you, and not a decision you make on your own.

breaking the cycle you were in is no small feat; please do not misunderstand. what you did was difficult. I would not say that you were shamed into doing it, by what you've said.

Re: Plastic might be making us obese

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Our food chain has a lot to do with obesity. There are many studies on this stuff. We eat 5 times as much meat on average as people did 100 years go. Animal based products are a major source of fat. People used to eat more fruits and vegetables. The fat type has shifted with more fat (which has higher calorie per gram amounts than carbs or protein) and fat moving from polyunsaturated fats to saturated fats (which cau…

We eat unnatural amounts of polyunsaturated oils today. You have it completely backward. The amount of vegetable based fats consumed 100 years ago was significantly less. It wasn't until chemical extraction was introduced that we could consume as much vegetable based fat as we do today. Saturated fat is actually more stable and by far healthier.

Saturated fat is the primary cause of high cholesterol and type 2 diabetes. How is that healthier?

Re: Plastic might be making us obese

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What's the difference between wanting to be fit, and not wanting to be fat? Wanting to be rich, or not wanting to be poor? Yet you're calling one healthy, and the other one producing unhappiness.

the motivation is either good or bad, and that matters a lot. this isn't a door which can be pushed from one side or pulled from the other to achieve the same result. motivation and the reasons you are doing something matter. a lot. imagine you are a slave working a field so you can eat, vs a farmer working a field so you can eat. do you really believe there is no difference? the difference is effectively infinite.

You haven't come close to explaining why one is good and one is bad, though.

Re: Plastic might be making us obese

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Drink sizes are WAY bigger. I remember small fries used to come in a little white paper sleeve. In the US, I haven’t seen those in years. That said, this 2011 study from Cambridge University says portion sizes have not grown significantly. https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/proceedings-of-the-n...

I received one of those paper sleeves the last time I went through a drive through maybe 4 or 5 weeks ago, but that's not to say the sleeve itself didn't get larger.

Paper or paperboard? Was it white or red?

Re: Plastic might be making us obese

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Not too far off - the body is pretty darn efficient.

What is your source on this?

It’s pretty common knowledge. Unless you have diarrhea or something, your body will use up just about everything that you eat.

https://cathe.com/do-you-absorb-all-of-the-calories-you-eat/

A textbook I saw said in terms of _mechanical_ efficiency, we get about 25% at converting calories to mechanical work, which beats an internal combustion engine!

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