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Re: Productivity porn

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Post by birdyrooster »

mindentropy wrote: post #355
stevenfoster wrote: post #206

The Jewish people have their Sabbath, as a hispanic person myself, we have our Siesta. I spent over a decade in the tech industry and I'd literally be scoffed at for actually napping in a nap room or pod for 20min. Finally just started doing it in my car. But that's one of my practices that anchors me not only to my culture, but my Creator. It humbles me. And brings me joy. I hope everyone could find what their pract…

As an Indian I loved my afternoon sleep during the holidays. During school days I would come home and sleep for an hour while reading something. I really loved my sleep. When I started work I hated that my sleep was reduced drastically. Sleeping late working on personal projects played havoc on my sleep. Now in WFH I sleep for an hour or more in the evening which would have been wasted commuting. I have seen my cogni…

Once you realize you only work for (aka being bribed by) BigCo to snuff out their competition it pretty much removes the guilt of not working. I used to have gray hair coming in, and after I stopped being a try-hard the color came back. I was looking so old and tired always, now I am looking and feeling spry! Enjoy life and donate all of the bribes you don’t need to people who need it through direct action so they can have a chance to nap too.

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Post by sudo_rm »

Joeri wrote: post #313
LordHeini wrote: post #31

I really don't get any of those "be more productive", book, video, course and so on. Every single person I know just wastes their time with that. Usualy they work long hours and still don't get much done. But hey, they have Zettelkasten with things the never read. A to do list with stuff they never do. And they go out in the morning at 5 for jogging, while gulping down a liter of coffe or energy drinks which results…

I used to devour this stuff in the beginning of my career, because I always felt like I was drowning in a job that was asking too much of me. Eventually though I got to a place where I no longer needed anymore of these tips. These productivity systems and life hacks are useful, so it is not bad to explore what is out there, but they are tools and tools are not useful unless they are set to a purpose. Also, it is easy…

> (a) work is effectively infinite and (b) the things worth doing or seeing exceed the capacity of a human life.

These are some of the main ideas in the book 4000 Weeks: Time Management for Mortals. I think it is one of those rare self help books that are actually worth a read.

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Post by bebop »

tiku wrote: post #363
mindentropy wrote: post #355

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As an Indian I loved my afternoon sleep during the holidays. During school days I would come home and sleep for an hour while reading something. I really loved my sleep. When I started work I hated that my sleep was reduced drastically. Sleeping late working on personal projects played havoc on my sleep. Now in WFH I sleep for an hour or more in the evening which would have been wasted commuting. I have seen my cogni…

How many cultures are there that have a midday/afternoon sleep? I only knew of the siësta in Spain..

I think it is pretty common in places where the mid day sun makes working difficult and dangerous.

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Post by evanspa »

jisbruzzi wrote: post #374
danielbln wrote: post #331

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Death will come for you regardless of your productivity.

For some, productivity equals virtue. A virtuous life is always better than a lazy or vicious life. So you die having lived a better life . And (at least for us catholics AFAIK), a virtuous life leads to heavens.

"vicious" Think you meant to say "vacuous"

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Post by agota »

CSMastermind wrote: post #246
bogdanoff_2 wrote: post #217

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>the people who were into FIRE [...] have ended up markedly worse off by their own definition of success than people who took more traditional routes. Can you please elaborate?

Sure, the people I know who: - Focused on getting passive income streams set up through real estate, stock investment, content creation, retail arbitrage, etc. - Were particularly frugal with their money and avoided travel, parties, 'lifestyle creep', etc. - Attempted to min/max their careers by switching jobs every 1.5 to 2 years and negotiating hard each time. Are: - Still not retired in their mid to late 30s. - On…

I believe that one reason for this is that FIRE, passive income, entrepreneurship, etc. attracts people who are looking for shortcuts.

This means that they are optimizing for the short term, which is counterproductive to success in any area of life.

Back in the 2010s we saw this with niche sites, ebooks, info products, etc.

It worked for some but it's probably safe to say that learning to code and getting a tech job would have had better ROI for most people who went down that route.

At the moment we are seeing this in the crypto space, where you have all these guys in their 20s who are "investing in crypto" (gambling) because they want a Lamborghini ASAP.

They would likely be better off learning to code and getting a tech job, but they can’t see it at the moment because they don’t have the perspective that comes with time.

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Post by _69x2 »

CSMastermind wrote: post #246
bogdanoff_2 wrote: post #217

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>the people who were into FIRE [...] have ended up markedly worse off by their own definition of success than people who took more traditional routes. Can you please elaborate?

Sure, the people I know who: - Focused on getting passive income streams set up through real estate, stock investment, content creation, retail arbitrage, etc. - Were particularly frugal with their money and avoided travel, parties, 'lifestyle creep', etc. - Attempted to min/max their careers by switching jobs every 1.5 to 2 years and negotiating hard each time. Are: - Still not retired in their mid to late 30s. - On…

>Plus, I've found the people who were hyper focused on retiring early or achieving financial independence to be less happy and more self-critical about their financial decisions.

I also wanted to comment on this.

What I have observed about FIRE folks is that they start optimizing everything for FIRE.

This isn't a healthy way to live, certainly not in the long run, and it's not like this goes away once they reach FIRE.

Here's an article where Mrs. Money Mustache shared how uncomfortable she was about her parents taking her and their son to the movies, then to an ice cream place.

She was already retired, literally a millionaire.

https://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2012/07/27/youll-never-be-no...

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Post by drcode »

agota wrote: post #375
biztos wrote: post #182

One of the original, and most effective, competition hacks is to convince people that you sleep less than they do. When someone tells you they sleep 5 hours a night then run two miles and take a 15-minute cold shower then start their work day, 85% of the time they are lying, 10% of the time you will have already noticed the effects of chronic sleep deprivation, and 5% of the time it's drugs. But this has been a suref…

You need to account for genetic outliers. IIRC, Jocko Willink believes that his ability to function on little sleep is genetic, he just doesn't need much of it. He has mentioned that this was a running joke in the Seal teams, which presumably consist of people already selected for their ability to function on little sleep, not your average "7 - 8 hours of sleep" folks. But then normal people who need an average amoun…

When you listen to Jocko talk about himself, you are not getting an honest accounting about an actual human being

Your are being given a story created by Jocko to build the Jocko mythos. Jocko will not let any truths get in the way of a good story about the mythical Jocko. His artisinal leather boots and cologne don't sell themselves, you know.

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Post by shudza »

Joeri wrote: post #313
LordHeini wrote: post #31

I really don't get any of those "be more productive", book, video, course and so on. Every single person I know just wastes their time with that. Usualy they work long hours and still don't get much done. But hey, they have Zettelkasten with things the never read. A to do list with stuff they never do. And they go out in the morning at 5 for jogging, while gulping down a liter of coffe or energy drinks which results…

I used to devour this stuff in the beginning of my career, because I always felt like I was drowning in a job that was asking too much of me. Eventually though I got to a place where I no longer needed anymore of these tips. These productivity systems and life hacks are useful, so it is not bad to explore what is out there, but they are tools and tools are not useful unless they are set to a purpose. Also, it is easy…

I was about to do something with my expanding procrastination habbit, but then you made me realize it's all good.
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