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Re: I used DALL·E 2 to generate a logo

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Why should there be legislation? Do you want to restrict what people can do, just to force them to employ artists and writers? We could also forbid people from filling the gas tanks in their own cars, to protect the job of gas station attendant, but nobody wants to live in New Jersey.

you remember the concept of dumping, i.e., flooding a market with below cost product to drive out competing businesses? This is dumping for creatives. editing: not that it's intentional, but these things will have the same effect; way too much product even for creative works. No one will be able to make money off the product but the tools.

Is it below cost though? It might just be very cheap to run.

Re: I used DALL·E 2 to generate a logo

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Not trying to be a luddite and/or vehemently defend the noble profession of nuanced graphic design, BUT... Those iterations suck. I'm not worried for my colleagues and I. That being said! Many, MANY clients have questionable taste, and I can, indeed, see many who aren't sensitive to visuals to be more than happy with these Dall-E turd octopus logo iterations. Most people don't know and don't care what makes good grap…

I agree with you. I will say, though, I think DALL-E has opened up a new market for artists. I've gone to freelance graphic designers before, and been generally happy with the results, but it's pricey. So pricey that I honestly can't justify it for a new project I intend to sell or for an open source project I don't expect to make money from. It's usually much more cost-effective to even hire lawyers or even UI/UX pe…

It's kinda funny that your main complaint about the final logo is that it doesn't tell you much about what the project does.

I can't think of a single well known logo that is even remotely close to what a company's product is. Photoshop, Firefox, Chrome, Microsoft, Facebook, Apple, Netflix, McDonalds, Ford, Ferrari, Samsung, Nvidia, Intel, RedHat, Uber, Github, Duolingo, AirBnB, Slack, Twitter, IntelliJ, Steam.

I guess the Gmail logo does tell you it has something to do with mail though, so I did find one example.

Re: I used DALL·E 2 to generate a logo

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Did a reverse image search on the logo and came across this oddity: https://www.knowasiak.com/i-vulnerable-dall%C2%B7e-2-to-gene... Generative ML is going to destroy the internet one day.

how did this happen? is someone generating paraphrased clones of articles appearing on HN? why? for ad revenue?

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Re: I used DALL·E 2 to generate a logo

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I agree with you. I will say, though, I think DALL-E has opened up a new market for artists. I've gone to freelance graphic designers before, and been generally happy with the results, but it's pricey. So pricey that I honestly can't justify it for a new project I intend to sell or for an open source project I don't expect to make money from. It's usually much more cost-effective to even hire lawyers or even UI/UX pe…

It's kinda funny that your main complaint about the final logo is that it doesn't tell you much about what the project does. I can't think of a single well known logo that is even remotely close to what a company's product is. Photoshop, Firefox, Chrome, Microsoft, Facebook, Apple, Netflix, McDonalds, Ford, Ferrari, Samsung, Nvidia, Intel, RedHat, Uber, Github, Duolingo, AirBnB, Slack, Twitter, IntelliJ, Steam. I gue…

Most of those examples are company logos, and the branding for the company is different than the branding for its products.

So whereas Ford's brand is just a name, "Mustang" has a logo that really does tell you something about the car. You kind of understand when you see the galloping horse what it's meant to do.

Intel brands its CPUs with the name inside a square, which is colored to resemble (abstractly) a CPU.[0]

And Photoshop once had a logo that communicated what it did.[1]

As a brand becomes more established, it tends to be more abstract. Whereas Starbucks was once an elaborate siren (I interpreted it to be the siren call of espresso), details have been simplified over the years.[2] This is similar to the Photoshop magnifying glass logo becoming "Ps".

After the Apple I and Apple II, Apple sometimes used apple varieties (plus Lisa) to brand it's products (e.g. Macintosh, Newton). However, this largely stopped in the late 90s when Steve Jobs returned. Macintosh was shortened to Mac, and 'i' was prepended to various product names. Most new ones were descriptive e.g. iPod, iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch. The computers have retained "Mac" in the branding, along with "book" for notebooks (a convention predating Steve's return). The logos for all of these are just the names of the products typeset in its own San Francisco font; whenever Apple appears in a product name, the Apple logo is used instead.

So, yeah, I think it's reasonable to communicate what a product does or why a project exists with its logo. I didn't really see that w/ OctoSQL.

EDIT: I should also address Firefox & Chrome.

Firefox started as Phoenix (i.e. rising from the ashes of Netscape Navigator/Mozilla). Phoenix had a trademark conflict, so was renamed Firebird. This also had a conflict, and Firefox was chosen after. In the Zeitgeist of the early aughts, Phoenix made a ton of sense: instead of extremely bloated chrome around the page as had been prevalent in Navigator and Internet Explorer, Phoenix gave you a tab bar (truly revolutionary), the navigation bad and the bookmarks bar. It was simple and clean, like a reborn Phoenix.

Chrome is interesting because the name is not related to traveling or navigation. It's telling you it's just the container for what you care about. But the logo is a bit more like a sphincter or an all-seeing aperture. I've never gotten the logo for Chrome outside a spyware context, but it has become successful.

[0] https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/details/pro...

[1] https://logos-world.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Adobe-Pho...

[2] https://miro.medium.com/max/2418/1*tJf7O6FPOmnErngygbBQDQ.pn...

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