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Re: MasterCard suspends all services in Russia

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Rip the band-aid off and take some hairs with it!

Very. They (China, Russia, India) are calling it "the multi polar world". Knocking swift, visa, mastercard and the dollar out of every country they can has been a goal for years, and now they are handing it them on a plate. Sigh.

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Re: MasterCard suspends all services in Russia

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It probably has something to do with the genocide they’re committing.

Do you know what genocide means? It's war, it's bad but it's not genocide.

Waging war to erase a nation or ethnic group is the very definition of genocide. Yes. It’s genocide.

Re: MasterCard suspends all services in Russia

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Syrians, Iraqis, Libyans, Yemenis, Palestinians would agree wholeheartedly. "Russia is the greatest threat to us all".

Don’t appeal to emotion. This isn’t about the relative value of people, but about this conflict being more likely to escalate into a much more serious global conflict. The same would be true of China invading Taiwan.

If we are going to talk objective politics, the US knew what they were doing when they were steering Ukraine into a collision with Russia, back when they had a serious part in that coup, then supporting the constitution change about neutrality, and finally taking steps for Ukraine to join NATO, all the while ignoring the Nazi proliferation in Ukraine (not very much important detail, but it did show their intents, and it was not democracy). What does that make the US? What was their end goal through all this? Are their goals in Ukraine that important to lead to today? They did know what would happen, with what they did with Ukraine, with what they had done with Georgia, which they also left helpless after steering it to war, and with all of the NATO's expansion towards Russian borders. They had given an example of what happens when you play dangerous games in the doorstep of a great power, with Cuba, threatening a WW3. And they DID NOT CARE. I am not taking away blame from Putin on this specific war. I am just reminding you, the US is playing the same game, and its goals are not concerned with global peace and human wellbeing.

None other than the hypocrisy of the US and the global standards it has set will be the cause of a global conflict. They just have to keep their forces in check, while an opponent does what they have been doing for decades on a non NATO country. Objectively speaking, THAT is the best decision for world peace. And it's all on the US alone. They can do it, and no one is forcing them otherwise.

Re: MasterCard suspends all services in Russia

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post #278
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Punishing civilians for the actions of their dictator is a despicable form of victim-blaming. Russia isn't a democracy. Ordinary people can't oust Putin because the rest of the world makes their lives difficult. This doesn't fix the problem. Punishing his existing subjects because he's invading another country to acquire more subjects is despicable.

The subjects are the ones in the best position to get rid of Putin. And in a way the subjects are responsible for their leader. Many are fine with the status quo and sitting comfortably at home while Ukrainians are in refugee camps.

The whole context here is that a man has invaded a country and is taking it over despite the very best efforts and extremely firm rejection of its citizens.

And yet your argument is that, in an adjacent territory he already controls, the citizens should somehow be more successful at removing him?

In what possible way??

Either he is not a dictator and the people of Ukraine shouldn't worry because they'll just be able to "get rid of him" anyway, or he is a dictator and blaming Russian civilians for being under his dictatorial control is victim-blaming.

This doesn't work both ways.

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