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Things you notice when you quit the news (2016)

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Re: Things you notice when you quit the news (2016)

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I agree that it's difficult. I am very selective with friends and it takes months if not years to find a new friend. However, when one is found, they are a friend for life. > What is your reading list and hours per week spent? It's a combination of local (municipal, state) and national/international news. Local is easy and tends to be very factual. If you're in the US, there are a lot of smaller publication that repo…

Do you have advice on finding more resources for local news? It seems my local sources are just as biased as the national ones, and most pieces read like puff pieces to prop up political careers, hit pieces (my local news transportation writer loves to bash cal hsr), or downright advertisements just like the junk from the national outlets. A lot of local stuff that does sometimes directly impact me doesn't even seem…

I agree that it's not easy. While most major publications in your area have opinion columns and a leaning, I would still read them for the facts they share.

For more local news, I have found a decent strategy. This may sound weird, but I've joined local Facebook communities in my area to track the sources of the articles their members share. If you ignore the pro-/anti- rhetoric in the comment sections, you may find that some of the publications are actually legitimate sources of information about the latest happenings in the community. It doesn't have to be a scandal all the time (it often isn't). Instead, I read about new Covid regulations, about the struggles and successes of local business, about new legislation being tabled by the state government, about elections and their candidates, etc.

Most news is surprisingly human and humble. Opinions and partisan publications have made news out to be this incendiary thing whereas, in reality, it's just a bunch of people trying to live their lives and make decisions in a world of little certainty.

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I fully agree with this. Scanning Google News or a couple of the more professional international news services like BBC / Al Jazeera / Reuters I still feel pretty well informed (and confident that there's usually nothing of immediate consequence to me) but it doesn't grow into "expert analysis" or impact my feelings much. Here's another thing I noticed: how manipulated / manipulative it is. And not just news and I do…

I'm a firm believer in quality over quantity when it comes to news. Google News has gotten increasingly annoying though, forcing me harder toward the "personalized" results, the kind of filter bubble I'm intentionally trying to avoid. What worked well for me was getting a print subscription to the Economist. They definitely have a bias (particularly in their editorials), but it's mostly of the "free trade" variety, w…

> I'm a firm believer in quality over quantity when it comes to news

When it comes to news, I'm of the opinion that one should strive for diversity of opinion rather than quality. As you noted, all media has a bias so you should see what everyone's biases are. You will never get truth from any single media outfit so cast a wide net.

> What worked well for me was getting a print subscription to the Economist.

Why would you pay for something that has ads? It would be like paying facebook for a facebook account.

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Welcome back! You might find these better uses of your news time. * The Conversation - https://theconversation.com/us * Ground News - https://ground.news * sumi.news - https://sumi.news * Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Current_events If you find yourself reading too much this can help too * LeechBlock - https://www.proginosko.com/leechblock

Thanks :) My favorite is Delayed Gratification : A print magazine that writes about events after the fact. Deep dives into a few topics and great infographics "The world’s first Slow Journalism magazine. A beautiful quarterly publication which revisits the events of the last three months to offer in-depth, independent journalism in an increasingly frantic world." https://www.slow-journalism.com/

This is a great find! Just what I have been looking for. Thank you.

Re: Things you notice when you quit the news (2016)

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Hey what's happening in Ukraine? If you don't follow news you probably won't know. No news is good news right?

Well it depends on where you live. If you live in California, okay what are you doing about it?

"Knowing" about Ukraine does absolutely nothing - you know 'everything' and I know nothing we still have the exact same amount of impact on the situation -> Zero.

Meanwhile you can spend the same time talking to your neighbors about what's happening in the community and actually have real impact. "Oh Tom is sick? Let me bring over some food for him"

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I'm a firm believer in quality over quantity when it comes to news. Google News has gotten increasingly annoying though, forcing me harder toward the "personalized" results, the kind of filter bubble I'm intentionally trying to avoid. What worked well for me was getting a print subscription to the Economist. They definitely have a bias (particularly in their editorials), but it's mostly of the "free trade" variety, w…

> I'm a firm believer in quality over quantity when it comes to news When it comes to news, I'm of the opinion that one should strive for diversity of opinion rather than quality. As you noted, all media has a bias so you should see what everyone's biases are. You will never get truth from any single media outfit so cast a wide net. > What worked well for me was getting a print subscription to the Economist. Why woul…

I think the side net thing would work better if there wasn’t so much garbage out there nowadays

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Entered in 2017 and got back to "the World" six months ago.

Pretty sure things were just as shitty in 2017

Seems like OP would disagree with you strongly and had a rather intense reaction to the state of media in 2022. Do you have anything to offer a counter opinion?

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I haven’t checked the news since June 1, 2020. As part of some self imposed pandemic related health precautions.

I’ll ask Siri to read me the news and listen to the five minute overview which is all I need to make sure WWIII hasn’t broken out.

I’d still like to subscribe to a physical weekly. But not sure there are any good ones without a heavy slant in Canada.

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I'm a firm believer in quality over quantity when it comes to news. Google News has gotten increasingly annoying though, forcing me harder toward the "personalized" results, the kind of filter bubble I'm intentionally trying to avoid. What worked well for me was getting a print subscription to the Economist. They definitely have a bias (particularly in their editorials), but it's mostly of the "free trade" variety, w…

> I'm a firm believer in quality over quantity when it comes to news When it comes to news, I'm of the opinion that one should strive for diversity of opinion rather than quality. As you noted, all media has a bias so you should see what everyone's biases are. You will never get truth from any single media outfit so cast a wide net. > What worked well for me was getting a print subscription to the Economist. Why woul…

> Why would you pay for something that has ads? It would be like paying facebook for a facebook account.

Or paying to go to live sports when everything has ads on it.

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I'm a firm believer in quality over quantity when it comes to news. Google News has gotten increasingly annoying though, forcing me harder toward the "personalized" results, the kind of filter bubble I'm intentionally trying to avoid. What worked well for me was getting a print subscription to the Economist. They definitely have a bias (particularly in their editorials), but it's mostly of the "free trade" variety, w…

I used to find the Economist great, but with the corrosiveness of everything this last bit, they seem to sneak agenda into articles now days in a way I feel like this whole post is trying to move away from. Maybe as a lost Libertarian who can't stand the control everyone's lives progressives I feel that has crept quite a bit into the Economist. It's funny it bothers me as I have reached a point where I feel Libertari…

I agree. The Economist is like NPR for rich people and diplomats. Head out to the parlor with your cigar and jacket and enjoy it.

They are good in that they are informative and not subtle about the voice of the paper. But it gets a little boring to me if I read it for a few months.

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