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Re: This word does not exist

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Author here! Funny to see this at the top of HN today -- happy to answer any questions (source code is here https://github.com/turtlesoupy/this-word-does-not-exist ) Shameless plug for my other "this x does not exist": This Fucked Up Homer Does Not Exist https://www.thisfuckeduphomerdoesnotexist.com/

Do you do inference on every visit?

What is the cost of being on the front page?

Re: This word does not exist

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You might need some filtering. I got the following output for my 7th or 8th try (I did s/ig/*/g because I hate typing this): noun. n*gerbar n*·ger·bar a bar from which the beer and liquor are sold "that party got a whole lot cooler this week with a n*gerbar refreshment" a word that does not exist; it was invented, defined and used by a machine learning algorithm.

It's hilarious that not even this GPT side project can escape the need for OpenAI-style output filtering. Someone really ought to make an open source lib to solve this once and for all...

I don’t have access to gpt-3 but have wondered how much adding “without being offensive” to the prompt would help.

On one hand it’s the promise of the algorithm that such things will work, on the other hand I doubt it.

Re: This word does not exist

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I'm sure this thread is full of this, but I really liked this one. noun. subsequentity sub·se·quen·tity (in Kantian philosophy) a system of contenting, or, rather, a discourse on the content of that discourse "subsequentity to the abolition of monism"

Hi, I took the time to try to answer your question in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28893728 ; would you be willing to clarify?

I'm procrastinating on other stuff, so I'll elaborate, but not because I have any responsibility to.

Both you and the author are guilty of using imprecise language as if it were precise language.

>imposing activity, as opposed to forbearance from activity.

When you use imprecise (ie natural) language, what you are really doing is using generic language. The natural language is a template for deciding whether a given formal language construction can replace it. I claim that I can choose a definition for activity, such that these two concepts two are logically equivalent, that is heuristically compatible with the natural language. For example:

Time moves forward, and whatever you do while that happens is your activity. the ways to require me to perform some activity in a set of activities are equal to the ways to require me to perform some activity in the complement of some set of activities.

In fact, I think that you might have some trouble defining activity in such a way that those two things are different, but the point is that there is ambiguity.

This isn't a minor point. The author uses natural language constructions as if they were logical constructions all over the place, and then further builds propositions out of them as if he were using formal constructions.

>a positive-sum maximization of individual agency and control over their lives to the greatest extent possible short of anyone’s agency infringing on anyone else’s, is universal consent of the governed....

A sensible logical interpretation here is that all of the agents must be completely isolated from each other. Each one is maximizing their own utility in their own black box. If they weren't, then they would each be naturally infringing upon each other's agency to not be observed by each other by observing each other. We have explicitly excluded that case, so we must be talking about isolated agents. In this case I agree with the premise, even. The ultimate in democracy is indeed the (pointwise) maximization of each agent's utility. As a logical conclusion, this is fine. It more or less follows from the assumptions and I have no immediate problem with it.

However, if we are asked to additionally assume that these people live on earth and are subject to earthlike constraints. This clearly violates the premise, as you even point out yourself.

"Oh no", a strawman might say, "it is bad faith to instantiate these natural language definitions with example formal definitions that yield contradictions!"

What else am I supposed to do with informal reasoning? But fine, supposing that we really do have a good way to define "infringing on each others agency" so that people can live on earth together without doing it. What even is the sum of their agencies or whatever measure is being used? In my earlier example, I just needed a partial order, and the agent's isolation from each other was enough to guarantee me a maximal element, all of a sudden I have to both combine different people's utilities into a single number and then order the result of that combination? And this supposed ordering happens to have a generic maximal element whenever no one is infringing upon anyone elses agency? I would describe this as unintuitive.

If the author has an argument for or proof of this fact, they better make it more explicit than this, rather than just talking loosely about how ant colonies solve pathfinding problems (stigmergy).

On a more constructive note it is true that I disagree with the author's premise. It seems that the anarchists solution to the prisoner's dilemma is either to simply pretend that its an edge case and doesn't happen often enough to worry about, or to redefine social utility to prefer the situation where both playes defect because it is a Nash equilibrium, and therefore must be ideal.

Going even further, I can get universal consent to impose a policy of punishing defectors. This is a constraint on free agency, however, so universal consent and "free agency maximization" have nothing to do with each other.

Re: This word does not exist

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It's hilarious that not even this GPT side project can escape the need for OpenAI-style output filtering. Someone really ought to make an open source lib to solve this once and for all...

I think actually solving this problem is somewhat loosely reducible to human level intelligence in language understanding. The next best thing is a pile of patches that fix cases of the increasing creativity of the human adversaries to the system as we become aware of them.

You should aim higher than that. After all it was human level intelligence that got a proffesor fired for saying "nèige", a Mandarin filler word, in a lecture about filler words in other languages!

https://www.lamag.com/citythinkblog/usc-professor-slur/

Re: This word does not exist

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Syllables should always have only one vowel (technically nucleus) in them, which means that the bogus "syllables" the website is producing can't be real syllables - that might be the rule that you can't articulate. However, the website actually does not use GPT-2 to produce the syllables, it uses the library "pyhyphen". This library provides (misleadingly) a function claiming to create a list of syllables from a word…

Would it be correct to say that syllables in English are made of nuclear vowel phonemes and valent phonemes which could be vowel or consonant in nature? I’m not a linguist, but I’m very interested in language and how words are constructed.

I'm not sure what you're referring to by "valent phonemes." The standard treatment of a syllable, not only in English but cross-linguistically, is that a syllable is composed of an cluster of consonants at the beginning (the onset), a single "nucleus" phoneme that is most often a vowel or, somewhat less often, a sonorant consonant like 'r' or 'l', and another cluster of consonants at the end (the coda). The specific ways that syllables can be formed in a particular language are governed by the "phonotactical rules" of that language. These are rules like the English rule that an "ng" sound may only occur immediately after the nucleus, or like the Japanese rule that a coda may only be "n" or "" (the null coda).

Re: This word does not exist

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Author here! Funny to see this at the top of HN today -- happy to answer any questions (source code is here https://github.com/turtlesoupy/this-word-does-not-exist ) Shameless plug for my other "this x does not exist": This Fucked Up Homer Does Not Exist https://www.thisfuckeduphomerdoesnotexist.com/

Has it generated a word for the noise you make after sipping a cup of tea or a cold drink? The “ahhhh” sound. I nominate the word “fonce” if it’s not already taken. “The pair sat foncing so noisily over their hot cups of tea that it drove everyone else from the room”

moaning, the word is moaning, or involuntary escaping of air. If it's done really loud and on ourpose that's just called being an asshole, basically.

Re: This word does not exist

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It's hilarious that not even this GPT side project can escape the need for OpenAI-style output filtering. Someone really ought to make an open source lib to solve this once and for all...

I don’t have access to gpt-3 but have wondered how much adding “without being offensive” to the prompt would help. On one hand it’s the promise of the algorithm that such things will work, on the other hand I doubt it.

a simple blocklist might be just the cheaper and easier solution. After all, blocklists were, and still are being used to filter human output as well. And fail-safe. A person with a hobby project does not have a legal/pr department to deal with the consequences of AI having a bad day

Re: This word does not exist

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You might need some filtering. I got the following output for my 7th or 8th try (I did s/ig/*/g because I hate typing this): noun. n*gerbar n*·ger·bar a bar from which the beer and liquor are sold "that party got a whole lot cooler this week with a n*gerbar refreshment" a word that does not exist; it was invented, defined and used by a machine learning algorithm.

It's hilarious that not even this GPT side project can escape the need for OpenAI-style output filtering. Someone really ought to make an open source lib to solve this once and for all...

Or, better yet: we should all work to make sure every human being has their basic needs met and is treated with respect, and then words like this wouldn't have as much power.

Re: This word does not exist

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Would it be correct to say that syllables in English are made of nuclear vowel phonemes and valent phonemes which could be vowel or consonant in nature? I’m not a linguist, but I’m very interested in language and how words are constructed.

I'm not sure what you're referring to by "valent phonemes." The standard treatment of a syllable, not only in English but cross-linguistically, is that a syllable is composed of an cluster of consonants at the beginning (the onset), a single "nucleus" phoneme that is most often a vowel or, somewhat less often, a sonorant consonant like 'r' or 'l', and another cluster of consonants at the end (the coda). The specific…

I was kind of referring to valence electrons - so think “edge phonemes” - but I don’t think that came across.

This is a really interesting explanation of something that I kind of understand, but want to have a deeper understanding of. Any good references you can think of offhand?

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