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Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/vAkOJHbWYn9AvxSOmlHp_1VrzW... Does this meet your requirement?

If you read my comment, the answer is "no". That appears to be a white woman, and I was specifically talking about white "guys" which I used to mean "males"

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Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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5 years of security updates, 3 years of feature updates. On the page it says on the 12th footnote, "Feature drops for at least 3 years from when the device first became available on the Google Store in the US. Your Pixel will receive feature drops during the applicable Android update and support periods for the phone. See g.co/pixel/updates for details." On https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/4457705 it says…

It's funny that when discussing the topic of "updates" and obsolescence, users focus on the vendor as if they have exclusive control over the situation. Authors of applications may also play a role. For example, when they "update" their applications to only work with newer versions of Android. Depending on the user's application needs, that can shorten the life of a an Android device. Some applications will continue…

Whither the iOS equivalent of https://www.oldversion.com/android/

With open source software for PC, in many cases we (users of open source OS) have the choice to install any version we want. Sometimes I need to I run older Linux programs with older versions of system libraries. We can download these older versions of libraries and programs from an FTP sites or websites that provide a simple directory listing, an "Index of" page.

With pocket-sized computers called "smartphones", instead we (users of open source OS) have to contend with "app stores". The author publishes a new version and all older versisons "disappear". This lack of choice may be suitable for some users, but may not be suitable for every user, i.e., "one size fits all".

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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This will get downvoted immediately but what the heck. I understand we need better representation for people of color in many places - but dang Google, not a single white guy on the Pixel 6 page [0]?? Dozens of photos of people, not one white male. Sort of jarring in the reverse if you ask me. [0] https://store.google.com/product/pixel_6?hl=en-US Edit: Because the common reply to mine seems to be "Well now you know h…

Yep, welcome to the woke world where racism is at the front and center, instead of pushing it behind us and calling everyone a human. Slack is begging me to choose a skin color for my emoji. Everything about this culture is extremely off-putting to me. I am an immigrant to USA and a person of color if that matters, I didn't sign up for this and really don't want this culture in the place I now consider home.

As another person color, I agree. I am seeing open racism against white people a with small minority of people cheering all of it. They say reverse racism isn’t a thing but what they don’t get is that reverse racism is just racism.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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This will get downvoted immediately but what the heck. I understand we need better representation for people of color in many places - but dang Google, not a single white guy on the Pixel 6 page [0]?? Dozens of photos of people, not one white male. Sort of jarring in the reverse if you ask me. [0] https://store.google.com/product/pixel_6?hl=en-US Edit: Because the common reply to mine seems to be "Well now you know h…

I noticed as well. It's hilarious how they're trying to brand a phone for "everyone" these days but they market it through the images as only for really weird, arts and indie people. People you rarely see in real life.

Also didn't you know, being white is bad now. We need to erase everything about white men, for the greater good of equality. I just laugh at these extremist diversity forces.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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You're precisely missing the point. There is a new feature to better capture non-white skin tones. Those photos are to illustrate a product benefit. https://twitter.com/search?q=%23RealTone&src=typed_query&f=t...

Yeah, the explanation is literally right above the pictures: "Portraits on Pixel represent the nuances of different skin tones for all people beautifully and authentically."

That doesn't explain away the racism.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Thought you started out sarcastic, then realized you might not be sarcastic. Amazing that people went from "we need all colors represented in ads as best as possible" which was completely reasonable, to "maybe we don't need white people in ads at all sometimes, ok? maybe it's a good thing!" which is objectively an absurd stance.

I'm genuinely asking, are you insecure that white people might be left out for good or something? I don't get how some occasional over representation of minorities bothers people this much. It wouldn't bother me a bit if it happened in my country.

I'm not insecure about any of that. I'm just agreeing with the guy who sees this blatant hypocrisy and calls it out.

It bothers a bit because it such an obvious thing, where they had to go through and find the exact people they wanted and you know that they purposely did it because it's "the thing" right now.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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This will get downvoted immediately but what the heck. I understand we need better representation for people of color in many places - but dang Google, not a single white guy on the Pixel 6 page [0]?? Dozens of photos of people, not one white male. Sort of jarring in the reverse if you ask me. [0] https://store.google.com/product/pixel_6?hl=en-US Edit: Because the common reply to mine seems to be "Well now you know h…

Not sure you're being fair here. There's roughly 2 dozen photos of people on the page, 2 of which appear to be white-ish men. One whole section of six photos is explicitly there to demonstrate that their cameras now work as well for people who aren't white. Itself an issue of underrepresentation. Several others appear to be white-ish women. You say "I'm not sure why it's ok to vastly prefer one group for representati…

There are no fair skinned men on the page. Weird for something marketed mostly towards fair skinned people.

Not so weird once you realise it has an agenda behind it.

The truth is, they're forcing an extremist view on diversity in spite of the facts. They're allowed to do that. We're allowed to point out the hypocrisy.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Thought you started out sarcastic, then realized you might not be sarcastic. Amazing that people went from "we need all colors represented in ads as best as possible" which was completely reasonable, to "maybe we don't need white people in ads at all sometimes, ok? maybe it's a good thing!" which is objectively an absurd stance.

What’s so absurd? Often people of color are left out, why not the reverse? Your view stinks of privilege.

So when an ad has only whites, you would say: "why is this not representative of the people of this country!?"

Then in this case I say: "why is this not representative of the people of this country!?"

Your response, a smarmy "why not?" and personal attack.

The failure can speak for itself.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Your examples are hilarious and you can imagine how I missed those. Pretend all the photos were reversed, and those were the only two people of color on the whole page. Google would be (rightfully) chastised.

Is it rightful to chastise them either way? It'd be one thing if there were a leaked internal memo saying to exclude a particular race, but this could just as easily be the result of a marketing intern arbitrarily selecting stock photos. Personally, I also didn't notice the presence of white men or lack thereof until you brought it up.

These aren’t stock images, they are meant to show what the pixel camera looks like. But at google, you can assume these things are all _very_ carefully considered. Usually all google marketing images contain exactly equal numbers of white/black and male/female people. It doesn’t really matter but it does stick out how they are all exactly proportioned in every graphic.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Agree 100% and upvoted. But it's never enough for these types of people that want to push their narrative forward and over anything that stands in it's way. There's never an end to it until the collective just says "No". You can fight it with agree-and-amplify: "Well Google you included dark skinned people of west african descent, but none of east african. I won't buy your product." "Well google you only included asi…

Hyperbole is a logical fallacy, just for your information.

How is this a fallacy? It's just extending their argument to show/highlight the absurdity that it could lead to.

Why stop at basic arbitrary things like skin color? Why not break it down by country of origin, way of speaking, etc. Every tv show should have someone with this list of accents, etc.

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