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Re: The Linux Experiments YouTube channel has been terminated

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Post by BizarroLand »

tick_tock_tick wrote: post #355
BizarroLand wrote: post #279

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So, I should read 25 books to verify that your one sentence claim is valid? Why not back that up with some relevant quotes to support your thesis, friend? That seems a decent thing to do compared to the litany of homework you callously threw at me.

What the hell kind of response is this? You try to puppet Popper's work, I tell you that's not at all what he said, you affirm you never read any of it and complain it's unreasonable to expect you to read it.........

Well, you're the first person I've encountered who has said that the well-known and oft-quoted bit of his work that I even provided a link to in wikipedia with quotes taken directly from is completely false in all regards.

You followed that up with a command to read more of his work without narrowing down out from which of his 25 books would provide any context to back your assertion up.

I just want a little more context than a single sentence from some person on the internet to re-evaluate my hypothesis. That shouldn't be too much to ask. Especially since you're asserting that you know more about the subject than the people who authored the Wikipedia page and every person who has written an article about it.

Re: The Linux Experiments YouTube channel has been terminated

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Post by BizarroLand »

abecedarius wrote: post #339
BizarroLand wrote: post #279

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So, I should read 25 books to verify that your one sentence claim is valid? Why not back that up with some relevant quotes to support your thesis, friend? That seems a decent thing to do compared to the litany of homework you callously threw at me.

Just look up where he wrote about this paradox of tolerance? It was in a footnote . (To guard, I'd guess, against people deliberately misinterpreting his words in the main text and going "Ha, look at this doctrinaire free-speech absolutist." I've read the book that was in.)

Why does where it was written matter? Saying that it being written in the footnotes invalidates the argument is the logical fallacy of poisoning the well.

You would actually need to refute the argument directly for your assertion to have any weight to it.

Re: The Linux Experiments YouTube channel has been terminated

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Post by BizarroLand »

luckylion wrote: post #340
BizarroLand wrote: post #279

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So, I should read 25 books to verify that your one sentence claim is valid? Why not back that up with some relevant quotes to support your thesis, friend? That seems a decent thing to do compared to the litany of homework you callously threw at me.

That's such a weird reply. You claimed, were told that it's not accurate, and then went on the offense with a slightly nicer version of "why should I read about the things I claim? How about you prove that it's not as I read on that one meme on imgur.com".

I didn't ask why I should read it. I asked for what to read. If they so much as selected the single book they're basing their claim on that would cut down their homework assignment by 96%.

I don't need chapter and verse, just a homing beacon would suffice.

Besides, we're roughly adults here. Someone saying "Nuh-uh" to an oft-quoted article has the gravitas of damp toast. Why shouldn't I question their response?

Re: The Linux Experiments YouTube channel has been terminated

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Post by bradknowles »

throwaway316943 wrote: post #146
corobo wrote: post #48

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> This makes it highly resistant to censorship We should probably stop using this phrase as a feature Instant thought was "ok so other than this channel it's all racism"

> If all mankind minus one, were of one opinion, and only one person were of the contrary opinion, mankind would be no more justified in silencing that one person, than he, if he had the power, would be justified in silencing mankind. >…the peculiar evil of silencing the expression of an opinion is, that it is robbing the human race; posterity as well as the existing generation; those who dissent from the opinion, st…

You are free to hold whatever opinions you want.

You are not free to force me to listen to them.

Re: The Linux Experiments YouTube channel has been terminated

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Post by BizarroLand »

tablespoon wrote: post #303
BizarroLand wrote: post #279

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So, I should read 25 books to verify that your one sentence claim is valid? Why not back that up with some relevant quotes to support your thesis, friend? That seems a decent thing to do compared to the litany of homework you callously threw at me.

>> Go and actually read Popper and you'll find he was close to a free speak maximalist his views on when you shouldn't "tolerate" intolerance was an incredibly high bar that almost nothing ever hits. > So, I should read 25 books to verify that your one sentence claim is valid? > Why not back that up with some relevant quotes to support your thesis, friend? That seems a decent thing to do compared to the litany of hom…

There's no snark intended.

Maybe using the word "callous" made it seem that way, but that is an accurate depiction of what their response was, rough, without thoughtfulness, the reflexive expression of an above average mind unconcerned with how their message was received.

Re: The Linux Experiments YouTube channel has been terminated

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Post by bradknowles »

BizarroLand wrote: post #260
causi wrote: post #169

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Everyone always seems happy to carve out their own exceptions to freedom of expression. Freedom, except for racism. Freedom, except for transgenderism. Freedom, except for porn. Freedom, except for violence. Freedom, except for political dissent or mis-gendering or the promotion or criticism of a religion. As someone who falls near the middle on most issues I probably detest a larger percentage of speakers than anyon…

The paradox of tolerance states that if a society is tolerant without limit, its ability to be tolerant is eventually seized or destroyed by the intolerant. It stands to reason then that if all speech is truly free eventually some speech will be censored. America doesn't allow people to say "Fuck" on public TV broadcasts, therefore all speech isn't free. No one is harmed by a curse word. Worst case a child will learn…

Your freedom of speech does not extend to yelling “FIRE!!!” in a crowded theater.

Your freedom of speech does not extend to inciting a riot.

There are obvious limits to “free speech”.

Re: The Linux Experiments YouTube channel has been terminated

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Post by BizarroLand »

tablespoon wrote: post #361
kbenson wrote: post #356

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> Your snark isn't warranted. Honestly, given the comment being replied to started with "go and actually read" I think the snark is warranted if they want. Also, for what it's worth I think they were trying to modulate that snark a bit by using "friend". If it's truly easy to realize what is being asked, a pointer in the right direction is useful. If it does require a lot of work, then providing some evidence to at l…

> Also, for what it's worth I think they were trying to modulate that snark a bit by using "friend". The internet sucks for nuance, but "friend" in this context doesn't read as modulation to me, it reads as sarcasm (and thus intensifies the snark). Edit: Dropped a response that was due to a simple misreading. Sorry.

When I use the word friend with a stranger, I mean it to say, "I have no ill intentions towards you". I'll look for a better way to express that in the future if the intent isn't coming through.

Re: The Linux Experiments YouTube channel has been terminated

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Post by strainer »

filmgirlcw wrote: post #380
strainer wrote: post #366

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The prominent Linux tech blogger, Bryan Lunduke left and denounced them this summer despite having been an early adopter and supporter. He had made a complaint on how they chose to give an exclusive spotlight to a partiuclarly trashy channel and then recieved a reply from their "Cheif Marketing Officer" which was itself shamelessly vulgar and trashy and boasted that such trash is "the Odysee Brand". Lundukes explaina…

I have no general opinion about Odysee/LBRY, except that I expect it to fair as well as every other blockchain buzzword bingo social thing and every other YouTube compete, which is to say, I expect it to never gain traction in any sizable way (I would certainly never choose it as a way to build my video audience), but if the argument against Odysee is that it is too permissive of what content it allows (and the line…

> if the worst thing you can say about it is that a guy that refuses to say “damn” or “shit” or “fuck,” is morally offended by some of the legal content

But that's not what I described. Its not the content Lunduke had an issue with, it was the marketting decision to promote it with an exclusive spotlight, and then the following unprofessional communications revealing something really dodgy about the company. Conversations about it on reddit have been removed apparently. I found Lunduke has posted an account of it on youtube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBZjUPavvs8

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