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Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Post by nradov »

macintux wrote: post #343
nradov wrote: post #330

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Nope. US courts have consistently held that the first amendment applies equally to everyone regardless of occupation. There is no special legal test to determine if someone is a member of the press. There are centuries of case law on this issue.

Journalists have (some) protection against being forced to testify about sources. I guess it becomes a philosophical question at that point whether being a journalist is an occupation or an action.

Wrong again. At the federal level, journalists have no such protection.

https://www.cjr.org/united_states_project/journalists_privil...

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Post by xxpor »

Covzire wrote: post #199
jdprgm wrote: post #175

It's been frustrating watching the Spotify (and general movement) with podcasts fragmenting and going exclusive. Spotify won with music because it improved upon the existing state of listening to music and offered a free or cheap solution that was even a compelling alternative to piracy. Podcasts for the most part were in the ideal state for consumers, almost always free and mostly client independent distributed w/ R…

The ads on Spotify for paying US users is what keeps me off of it for the most part. You can fast forward but it's a gigantic pain in the ass. Their UX is awful too compared to a simple web app, they should just clone a basic Youtube/Odysee/Rumble functionality for their video side.

>You can fast forward but it's a gigantic pain in the ass.

Does Spotify not support FF == skip 10 seconds forward that every other podcast player does? I have genuinely no idea, but it wouldn't surprise me.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Post by banana_maker »

clipradiowallet wrote: post #244
kelnos wrote: post #153

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> Everyone who is eligible and medically able needs to get vaccinated. I'm getting super tired of all this garbage; the US has had the vaccine supply and capability to be out of the pandemic by now That's a rather polarized position... what facts or experienced led you to this conclusion you stated? Specifically "the unvaccinated are screwing over the rest of us who are doing the right thing" .

"Specifically "the unvaccinated are screwing over the rest of us who are doing the right thing"."

They're disproportionately taking up resources in hospitals for example, which do not have unlimited resources. We could be having a much better response right now [here in the U.S.] with less load on hospitals, but we're not, because of selfish and/or gullible people.

They're also making the pandemic & related economic measures last longer than necessary. I can't wait for the next shutdown(s) as more variants evolve then spread and hospitals become even more inundated. Meanwhile I look at places like South Korea which have had life continue relatively normal because people actually wear masks there instead of politicizing them.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Post by dexterdog »

lghh wrote: post #247
timr wrote: post #203

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I am a free speech absolutist. The answer to speech you don't like is more speech, not censorship.

Say I'm an interviewer running a podcast about SaaS startups. Which is more useful? 1. I interview a handful of people who have differing opinions on what it takes to lead a SaaS startup who have all had successful exist, but have differing opinions on key issues. Maybe throw in a few people who have experience working in that type of environment, but maybe not leading, if you want a little more variety. 2. I intervi…

Number 1 is not very good because you're only taking to people who had successful exits so you're already skewing the conversation.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Post by valine »

secondcoming wrote: post #355
valine wrote: post #220

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I'm all for free speech in the sense that you have the right to say what you want without retribution from the government. Free speech doesn't mean you have the right to an audience.

Looks like your comment is losing its right to an audience

You clearly read it so maybe not.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Post by secondcoming »

jimt1234 wrote: post #274
indy wrote: post #81

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Some episodes are no longer available, as if Spotify wants everyone to forget that they even exist. Episodes featuring Milo Yiannopoulos, Alex Jones etc. In other words, guests that offend the progressive attitudes of Silicon Valley

Rejecting people that promote the "Sandy Hook was fake!" conspiracy theory and even harassing the parents of murdered children isn't a way to avoid offending the "progressive attitudes of Silicon Valley". It's just common decency. ... Can we at least set the bar at that level -- that we _don't_ harass the parents of murdered children for clicks?

Rogan called Jones out on that in one episode.

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Post by dexterdog »

djur wrote: post #302
timr wrote: post #203

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I am a free speech absolutist. The answer to speech you don't like is more speech, not censorship.

Speech such as "this guy is full of it, don't listen to him"?

Which is fine to say as long as you are not making it so people can't listen to him if they want it.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Post by FullKirby »

devwastaken wrote: post #252

That's fine. An uneducated guy bringing on other uneducated guys that talk about something as if they're experts. Joe is an "average dude" who loves his disinformation and nodding his head to whatever BS someone says. People like words, personalities, hand waving. That's not where truth comes from. Truth is a hard fought battle that doesn't come to you in a podcast. It comes in written words, proofs, and is filled wi…

I heard experts give nuanced opinions on his podcast

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Post by slashdev »

paulpauper wrote: post #262
arodgers_la wrote: post #188

Comedian Bill Burr said it best: "I'm not gonna sit here with no medical degree, listening to you with no medical degree, with an American flag behind you smoking a cigar acting like we know what's up better than the CDC." [0] That quote is Joe Rogan's shtick in a nutshell. [0] https://youtube.com/watch?v=tSKVXl-WnrA&t=5m20s

the health experts a year ago said vaccines would make this go away, and before that they predicted that masks and social distancing would flatten the curve. With the exception of a few countries, none of that happened. At this ponit, I don't think anyone knows anything. due to rampant downvoting, I will respond to individual replies here: "This worked perfectly basically anywhere people actually complied. " Italy ha…

Vaccines, masks, and restrictions did all work to "flatten the curve". Your assertion that they did not is a very minority opinion and the onus is on you to back that up with data.

It should be fully intuitive that anything that reduces the r0 value for spreading the disease flattens the curve compared to what it could have been. That somehow it is not obvious to you suggests your sense making apparatus has been hijacked by something. Take a good hard look at yourself.

To the downvoters, you are retarded. Sincerely.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Post by rednerrus »

edge17 wrote: post #165
xutopia wrote: post #48

To be fair... his move to Spotify coincided with him spewing more and more anti-vax and anti-mask drivel that I don't have any interest in listening to.

If anyone wants a datapoint, I stop listening to podcasts once they go to Spotify. I use Overcast, and generally don't have the wherewithal to chase content. I'm guessing there are more like me. I was an infrequent listener to Joe Rogan, but now I am not a listener at all (because it moved to Spotify). Also, there seems to be a lot of judgement of the kind of person Joe Rogan is (conspiracy, etc) in the comments. I h…

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