My small revenge on Apple

Here there is a conflict of interest. Who gets to choose to "expect" more? Arguably, I pay more $ to Apple than you (on top of the value I add). Let's see:

1 dev subscription 4 iPhones to test 2 iPads to test 2 macs to develop

Why do you get to "expect" things from me, and why does Apple get to force me to serve you in a certain way that keeps changing over time and then threatens to hide my work if I don't comply?

I don't know, it just doesn't seem fair. I am happy to work for free because I like what I do, but then being told to do things or risk being banned is just too much for my taste

I think I will just leave the App Store when my web version is finished. Too much trouble for nothing

Anything else that would ‘force’ you to Have an Account somewhere, combined with that somewhere happening to outsource their identity framework to “social” of any kind. Or: the same things that would ‘force’ you to have a social network account to start with, potentially.

To get on my hobbyhorse some: what about a platform that your employer uses to distribute relevant documents and updates which you need for your job, which has become sufficiently well-known and implicitly available that hesitating about the dependency is perceived as bizarre?

Note that the response of “don't deal with them then” runs into market information and churn amplification¹ issues when it is a social assumption that picking up a ‘tool’ (which is actually a relationship with a third party, but where this is close to invisible in the steady state) is essentially a free action which requires no consideration, because the information about “does this employer require me to use this tool” neither propagates efficiently nor stays stable.

Past source: wound up changing the email address on one of my Google accounts recently for exactly that reason. They actually asked me up-front whether I had a GMail account they could use instead, which turned out to be because they use restricted Google Docs for critical material. Not naming them, but in a broad sense, this is one of the more ethical companies I've ever dealt with, by the way.

Future source: I should probably be considering digging into LinkedIn soon despite their past abusive behaviors, because as it turns out, if I want to dig myself out of this hole…

¹ I assume there's a ‘real’ term for what I'm thinking of, but I don't know what it is, so I cobbled that one together out of the most relevant-seeming bits.

The point is that many developers would prefer to have a “real” email address. If you’re using Google or Facebook ads the email data point allows them to track you across apps and target advertising that data goes back into your personalized profiles.

Apples solution of an anonymous email breaks this personalized tracking which is good for privacy concerned users but potentially “harmful” for app developers, particularly those that are ad supported.

There are many who wouldn’t see the value in adding Apple Auth and may actually see it as harmful to their businesses model and chose not to implement it which would deprive users of that choice.

This isn’t about a large section of app developers who just use social auth in a benign way, like the author, to ease app sign ups it’a about those that use social auth more insidiously to track users, frequently without their knowledge.

There’s not a feasible way for Apple to enforce this selectively so used a heavy hand. I feel for author with respect to the button guidelines but as a privacy minded user I’m glad he’s being forced to add the option.

Thanks, I have to admit Apple fanbois are a persistent bunch. I think I must have gone in circular arguments a couple dozen times today

You don't understand, do you? The average apple customer values the consistency of experience in the platform far more than your application. In the grand scheme of things, I am pretty sure you removing your application from the apple store would be an objective loss for customers, but that loss pales in the sight of the benefit of not being compelled to use google or facebook as the only way to login into an application as it is so common in android.

The average apple customer values consistency and is far less tolerant of deviations from that than the average microsoft or google customer. The whole point in paying more for apple is because we value order, predictability and consistency.

Windows customers are not used to that. Windows Hello may be a good thing for them, but they don't expect the same degree of consistency, if your windows Application doesn't use it, they don't complain, this is life.

But apple customers, like you it or not, expect IOS features to be widely available on IOS applications. We literally pay for that, and as there are vastly more consumers like me, than developers like, it doesn't matter if we bought half the hardware you buy, because as a customer class, end users absolutely dwarf developers.

I completely understand your personal frustration. But this is on you, your choices of providing your work for free deliberately.

Most customers don't want to be back on the situation where you either choose between facebook login or tedious manual account creation, just because it will inconvenience some developers. The whole, raw point is exactly that. It may sound cruel, but we WANT you to be forced to implement stuff that is consistent with IOS guidelines, best practices or even features. Customers can be cruel like that.