An anecdote: I quit my soon to be "hybrid" job to move to a fully remote one.
Same. Management offered an exception, but I'd rather not be the odd one out, so I just left.
‘Great Resignation’ gains steam as return-to-work plans take effect
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#382Earlier quoted context omitted.
Given someone is working a white collar, air conditioned office job, I would guess their probability of having AC at home is north of 90%. https://www.eia.gov/consumption/residential/reports/2009/air...
Seattle has an air-conditioning rate of about 44% as of 2019. I know plenty of AMZN and MS employees without AC.
I assume those numbers will skyrocket up pretty quickly for AMZN and MS employees, or anyone else who can easily afford to have AC installed.
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#383Earlier quoted context omitted.
Going rate for someone in India that is as good as me is about 60% of my pay. So if they are making 1/3 as much as me they are not as good as me (though not 1/3)
> Going rate for someone in India that is as good as me is about 60% of my pay Ah, totally not an inflated sense of self worth... do you have a source for that number? New grad salaries for even graduates of top CS programs in India are between 1/4th and 1/3rd of $100k [1]. For most other good graduates it's lower. So what you said is incredibly ignorant and arrogant. Do better. You're not as special as you think. ht…
I'm not a new grad though, I have many years of experience, and a history of being worth paying. I'm not allowed to see real numbers, but I'm told that real pay is around that range by those who do in my company. Note that in India people work longer hours, so per hour you are getting down to less than 50% of my wages.
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#384I wish data and statistics weren't so frequently abused. This article told me nothing concrete of value. "Hey this number is big" - Yes, but was it also big before? How much bigger is it now? 2%? 10%? Is the cumulative number larger than just the sum of months under quarantine? Ie this is just pent up demand and if we averaged it across months it'd look normal? Historically what percentage of people thinking about ch…
The survey is also from a job website, this isn’t Pew.
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#385Earlier quoted context omitted.
Depends a lot. WFH when most companies won't allow it is a perk that will keep people around. However once WFH is a common thing it is much easier to switch. If you WFH you can work anywhere in the country (in theory world, but there are tricky issues there that I don't know much about) which means you can switch from a job in the Bay to NYC with no problem, then jump to the one job in some tiny village in Montana -…
I guess I was unclear in my comment. I meant that FAANG can spend money on WFH related perks (premium equipment, food delivery, whatever) that second tier companies are maybe not willing to pay, thus retaining the same advantage they had in the office work era that was mentioned by the grandparent in their post.
But they can't create a culture of WFH like that. For WFH to really work it needs to be first class in the company, otherwise those who work from home are cut out from the day to day office politics. In that environment WFH people are less valuable.
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Cube farms of the 80's/90's were the worst. Cube etiquette was in its infancy. Loud talkers, ice chewers, farters, snifflers, oversharers, too much A/C, too little A/C, awful ergonomics, 6'x4' compressed cubicles, shared cubicles. Then there was the crappy cafeteria food, enormous parking lots with 15 minute walks to your car if you showed up after 8am, ... oy.
But didn't they make the office even worse by going from cubicle to open office? Often less space per person, less privacy, noise travels further, visual distractions, etc...
Yeah, I never expected to feel nostalgic for cubes.
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#387I honestly don't know whether these articles are over-stating their case, and neither do I know how typical my own experience is, but for some reason it bothers me that the tone of the HN discussion is so reflexively dismissive. I understand that a lot of people will respond to a question of whether they intend to quit their job with a 'you bet!' even at the best of times, but I'm seeing a lot of people quitting and…
Interesting game-theoretic play: play chicken with return to work plans. Big co promises remote-first work indefinitely, scoops a bunch of talent from competitors who return to office first, then later go back on their word when nobody else is offering those terms. Even if some get to stay remote new hires may not be offered that. Corollary I guess is that some of us might be able to lock in a remote-only position if…
Requiring someone to come in to the office when it's been promised all along that he would be WFH permanently?
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#388Earlier quoted context omitted.
They might be able to hire boatloads of new/early grads but attrition of senior staff is no joke. Maybe they’re large enough to throw people at the problem and survive, IDK.
Where are all of these senior people with large, cushy BigCorp paychecks and benefits going?
Startups (both early and late stage)
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#389In my experience at least talking to some younger people there is a clear dichotomy: despite all the talk about Gen Z being "digital natives", people new in their career are much hungrier to get back into the office because they don't yet have good career networks built up and they're eager for mentorship. It is older, or at least more established workers who are less keen on that. I don't think FAANGs will have any…
From a single, young: I miss the office for.. - Free and convenient food. - Social chatter & engagement. - Making friends with employees who I don't know and connecting with new employees. - Work life separation (balance). - Proper workstation, climate controlled environment. - Sense of belonging - team outing, after hours beers.. - Intra and inter company sports and games. - Meeting potential dates. [Not me. Just em…
For many people the office only provides work life separation.
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#390Earlier quoted context omitted.
Seattle has an air-conditioning rate of about 44% as of 2019. I know plenty of AMZN and MS employees without AC.
I assume those numbers will skyrocket up pretty quickly for AMZN and MS employees, or anyone else who can easily afford to have AC installed.
It's not super easy. A lot of these are apartments that are not easy to retrofit. And a lot of Seattle buildings, houses or apartments, have casement windows that swing out from the bottom to protect the interior from rain, but also are probably the worst type of window to install any type of portable or window AC unit into because they don't swing out very far but the opening is absolutely massive.
There's also the matter of the fact that because Seattle doesn't get very hot or cold, there aren't that many people or companies that do AC installation. Anecdotally I've now heard that they're booked out for months, possibly a year, and with tight local housing and job market that is unlikely to change. You certainly haven't really been able to buy fans or portable units anywhere in the area since May.