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A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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Post by giarc »

1-6 wrote: post #372
rickspencer3 wrote: post #362

We're finally going to not renew our Amazon Prime after many years. We don't have that much need for "free" shipping on cheap Chinese products, and the convenience of the Amazon marketplace is now counter-balanced by the inconvenience of sorting out the fake goods and fake reviews. We are choosing sellers' own marketplaces when we can these days, and just dealing with longer and paid shipping. Additionally, we are fi…

Welcome to the other side. I haven't renewed Amazon Prime in quite a while. It's not that bad because you can still shop on Amazon with free shipping as long as you hit the minimum amount. I may keep things in the cart and sometimes it becomes a reminder for me to grab those items at the local shop. The only time I get an 'itch' to get back on Prime when I'm at Whole Foods. Other than that, goodbye free shipping!

Do you know if you can still use Subscribe and Save without a Prime membership? We use that service quite a bit.

Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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Post by LorenPechtel »

bombcar wrote: post #327
birdman3131 wrote: post #317

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is only if you enable comingled inventory. I don't believe it is required but I barely sell on amazon.

I think there’s a discount if you allow commingled inventory (or a cost to keep it separate) which makes sense as Amazon has to track and potentially stock it in multiple warehouses

The comingled inventory actually is a good idea, just flawed. Go ahead, comingle the inventory but keep track of where each item came from so when the counterfeit is discovered they know where it really came from and don't blame the innocent supplier.

Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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Post by atatatat »

rickspencer3 wrote: post #362

We're finally going to not renew our Amazon Prime after many years. We don't have that much need for "free" shipping on cheap Chinese products, and the convenience of the Amazon marketplace is now counter-balanced by the inconvenience of sorting out the fake goods and fake reviews. We are choosing sellers' own marketplaces when we can these days, and just dealing with longer and paid shipping. Additionally, we are fi…

Might I recommend Monoprice.com for the cables docks adapters displays speakers etc that you need cheap and reliable?

Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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Post by atatatat »

mmastrac wrote: post #337
Scaevolus wrote: post #309

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Alibaba & Aliexpress _do_ have a clone problem, but the notable distinction is that they don't aggressively comingle listings like Amazon does. This means for some common consumer items (fidget spinners, etc.) you'll find a hundred listings with identical images, slightly varying descriptions, and different factories, but you can easily choose which seller to buy from.

AliExpress can be pretty brutal. I went looking for a lithium power pack and it was clear that almost all the listings were the same crap with differently inflated capacities that were physically impossible.

Where did you end up?

Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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Post by CliffStoll »

_joel wrote: post #364
cartoonworld wrote: post #338

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You should read his book! He discusses this in the first chapter. He helped (or maybe solely) design the lens at W. M. Keck observatory, and you can see him on Numberphile a lot.

Definitely, I read it in a day it was so enthralling.

Took a year to write. Asynchronous I/O, I guess.

Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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Post by quickthrower2 »

mmastrac wrote: post #337
Scaevolus wrote: post #309

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Alibaba & Aliexpress _do_ have a clone problem, but the notable distinction is that they don't aggressively comingle listings like Amazon does. This means for some common consumer items (fidget spinners, etc.) you'll find a hundred listings with identical images, slightly varying descriptions, and different factories, but you can easily choose which seller to buy from.

AliExpress can be pretty brutal. I went looking for a lithium power pack and it was clear that almost all the listings were the same crap with differently inflated capacities that were physically impossible.

You are brave buying a high energy chemistry experiment from Alibaba. I’d stick to regular retail for that!

Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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Post by hhh »

blairanderson wrote: post #379
CliffStoll wrote: post #116

Guess I'd better say a few things. First, I deeply appreciate that so many on Hacker News have come out for this. Enough to awaken me from a sound sleep on a Tuesday evening! I don't really care that much about selling Klein bottles over Amazon - it's mainly to reach parents over the holidays. But I do wish that Amazon would do something about this kind of thing. Finally, I"m very low on stocks of glass Klein bottles…

Hi Cliff, I'm an independent amazon consultant. Your Amazon problems would be solved with a regular USPTO trademark. They don't recognize common-law trademarks because they are heavily arguable in litigation. USPTO is a database of trademarks already scrutinized by trademark attorneys and government. It's not perfect, but it is a collection that Amazon recognizes. You can do this for $2000-ish and never think about i…

While this would probably work, it seems insane to me that this would be the only thing to protect his listing from a completely different category of product being merged with another.

Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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Post by bombcar »

LorenPechtel wrote: post #382
bombcar wrote: post #327

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think there’s a discount if you allow commingled inventory (or a cost to keep it separate) which makes sense as Amazon has to track and potentially stock it in multiple warehouses

The comingled inventory actually is a good idea, just flawed. Go ahead, comingle the inventory but keep track of where each item came from so when the counterfeit is discovered they know where it really came from and don't blame the innocent supplier.

That's what amuses me - what, it requires a few additional characters on the stock barcode?

Of course the real problem is the counterfeiters have no problem starting a new vendor every few weeks or even days, so the damage may already be done by the time the reports come back.

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