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Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by pitterpatter »

Laarlf wrote: post #210
JoshTriplett wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Looks like that news just came out. Glad to hear it. Now let's hope it's an automatic upgrade for as many Windows 10 users as possible.

The update will come automatically as you can read here. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11 This is basically Windows 10 21H2. Just naming it differently because... New UI i guess?

No, once 20H1 was released it got cut into its own release branch. 20H2, 21H1 and 21H2 are all just updates on top of that branch. You can tell because their build numbers are all 1904x.

Windows 11 is based on the mainline branch after the above (though it too has been cut into its own release branch now). of course, some changes might be ported back and forth between releases.

So machines not eligible to be upgraded to Windows 11 will stay on Windows 10 and get 21H2 and who knows how many more updates.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by tryptophan »

philliphaydon wrote: post #262
silicon2401 wrote: post #180

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> A Microsoft account and internet connectivity is required for Windows 11 Home setup Looks like I'll be skipping windows 11 and any future windows iterations if this is unavoidable

Looking at windows 11 I might move back from linux.

I tried Linux mint recently and was impressed. My parents seem to use it without issue.

As long as you don’t game, need to use office or some other windoze software it seems like a viable choice.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by XzAeRosho »

aksss wrote: post #372
Aerroon wrote: post #191

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> * A Microsoft account and internet connectivity is required for Windows 11 Home setup I refuse. There better be easily accessible versions without this requirement.

Who uses home edition anyway? Your parents? It's not suitable for anyone that may want to lift the hood.

They mostly come bundled with laptops, which your parents and most users will buy without even caring about it.

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Post by kinjba11 »

badsectoracula wrote: post #225
hoopleheaded wrote: post #190

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I tend to avoid accounts as much as possible but this seems a juvenile response. Do you use a smartphone?

> this seems a juvenile response Why? Why not wanting to associate your computer with some Microsoft account is juvenile? > Do you use a smartphone? What does that have to do with anything?

> Do you use a smartphone? >> What does that have to do with anything?

I would bet 99% of iOS and Android users sign in with their Apple or Google account. Signing into an account for an OS is par for the course in 2021.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by schmorptron »

sorenjan wrote: post #247
satysin wrote: post #94

So to summerize what they have announced (so far) - * A new look task bar. Centred similar to the macOS dock by default but lacking the ability to position on any other screen edge? * A new start menu design * Windows have rounded corners * Some built in apps such as the Xbox app and Microsoft Store have been redesigned (Xbox Game Pass and xCloud built into the Xbox app) * New touch keyboard (SwiftKey?) with improved…

> A new look task bar. Centred similar to the macOS dock by default but lacking the ability to position on any other screen edge? This is confirmed on the Windows 11 specification site: > Alignment to the bottom of the screen is the only location allowed. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11-specifica...

Ughhh. This is legit something that'll stop me from upgrading for at least a bit. Gotten so used to having it on the left side that I really don't want to go back.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by feikname »

satysin wrote: post #94

So to summerize what they have announced (so far) - * A new look task bar. Centred similar to the macOS dock by default but lacking the ability to position on any other screen edge? * A new start menu design * Windows have rounded corners * Some built in apps such as the Xbox app and Microsoft Store have been redesigned (Xbox Game Pass and xCloud built into the Xbox app) * New touch keyboard (SwiftKey?) with improved…

> * Support for Android apps built into the OS (using Intel Bridge technology whatever that is?).

Straight copy pasta from https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/newsroom/news/intel-...

> Intel Bridge Technology is a runtime post-compiler that enables applications to run natively on x86-based devices, including running those applications on Windows. Intel’s multi-architecture XPU strategy provides the right engines for the right workloads by integrating leading CPU cores, graphics technology, artificial intelligence accelerators, image processors and more, in a single, verified solution.

looks like a JIT recompiler to me

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by kinjba11 »

aikah wrote: post #203
satysin wrote: post #94

So to summerize what they have announced (so far) - * A new look task bar. Centred similar to the macOS dock by default but lacking the ability to position on any other screen edge? * A new start menu design * Windows have rounded corners * Some built in apps such as the Xbox app and Microsoft Store have been redesigned (Xbox Game Pass and xCloud built into the Xbox app) * New touch keyboard (SwiftKey?) with improved…

> * Support for Android apps built into the OS (using Intel Bridge technology whatever that is?) Interesting, why would they do that? I mean it's nice ;) but, is this the new MS mobile strategy? Android?

I believe Apple is working on getting iOS apps working in future versions of Mac OS. Microsoft being able to run Android apps in Windows is probably in part a response to that.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by yyyk »

antisthenes wrote: post #33
notRobot wrote: post #3

Can't we just go back to Windows 7 UI and UX with modern Windows 10 feature and security enhancements?

W7 was the only MS product I ever paid money for (as a student), and feel like it was a great deal. Would gladly keep paying for security enhancements for it and don't really see anything that W10 (or W11 for that matter) offers over it for work or gaming. It's a real shame that taking away controls from power users seem to be more important than providing a great product. But I guess when you're a monopoly you can d…

>Would gladly keep paying for security enhancements for it

You can (until 2023) via the (expensive) ESU program. There's also 0patch, not sure how effective is their approach.

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Post by ryan29 »

Aerroon wrote: post #191
satysin wrote: post #94

So to summerize what they have announced (so far) - * A new look task bar. Centred similar to the macOS dock by default but lacking the ability to position on any other screen edge? * A new start menu design * Windows have rounded corners * Some built in apps such as the Xbox app and Microsoft Store have been redesigned (Xbox Game Pass and xCloud built into the Xbox app) * New touch keyboard (SwiftKey?) with improved…

> * A Microsoft account and internet connectivity is required for Windows 11 Home setup I refuse. There better be easily accessible versions without this requirement.

I need a local account. I set up my PC with multiple profiles. I start with a local admin account and then I add Microsoft accounts for my day-to-day work. I have one profile logged in to my personal Microsoft account. Another is logged in to an Office 365 account that belongs to someone I do work for. Etc..

Why is MS encouraging people to have one giant admin account with a work or school account connected? That's stupid. My personal account should be considered untrusted. Having it acting like the root account is just dumb, right?

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by nonameiguess »

Black101 wrote: post #241
satysin wrote: post #94

So to summerize what they have announced (so far) - * A new look task bar. Centred similar to the macOS dock by default but lacking the ability to position on any other screen edge? * A new start menu design * Windows have rounded corners * Some built in apps such as the Xbox app and Microsoft Store have been redesigned (Xbox Game Pass and xCloud built into the Xbox app) * New touch keyboard (SwiftKey?) with improved…

> * TPM 2.0 and UEFI are hardware requirements. No legacy BIOS compatibility at all? Could they try to block Linux installs? > * There is a universal mute button in the system tray so you can mute yourself system wide rather than in the app You could always click the speaker and mute it system-wide

The BIOS vendor would need to prevent you from turning off secure boot. Windows can't do that, except where they also control hardware, so possibly on the Surface?
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