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What Oxford taught me about posh people

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Re: What Oxford taught me about posh people

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post #139

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And the US isn't a good example of a country where people have a fair chance at success in life IMO.

The US raised scores of millions of immigrants from poverty to the middle class. Poor people immigrated to the US, people with nothing but a suitcase. The US has seen the most spectacular rise from poverty to wealth ever seen in history. In WW1, for example, the German soldiers knew they had lost when the Americans arrived, well equipped, tall, and fat with food. The Japanese soldiers had a similar reaction when faci…

> The US raised scores of millions of immigrants from poverty to the middle class.

Note that you're talking in the past tense.

Re: What Oxford taught me about posh people

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post #366

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Many people working in the US today would disagree. The fact that the forcing is done with debt and threats of homelessness and not at gunpoint is just an implementation detail.

How would you propose enforcing the fulfillment of (freely entered and completely voluntary) contracts?

> freely entered and completely voluntary) contracts

Muahahaha, good one!

Re: What Oxford taught me about posh people

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> I'm still sceptical if there even exists a successful welfare state that does not rely on natural resources, or the aftermath of some war. I was referring to this. Both Denmark and Finland were to a large extent involved in WW2, and neither have natural resources of the same kind as Norway. Or is your opinion that they are not successful welfare states?

I'm not sure to be honest, but for sure they were not involved in WW2 as much as other allies, and also I'm certain that the middle class in Denmark and Finland have very humble incomes/lives compared to for example the UK or US.

You're awfully certain of stuff that isn't so.
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