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Re: Agent fired from literary agency for using Parler and Gab

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Political affiliation is not a protected class. Being "a Christian" (whatever that means...) is a protected class - but where in the Bible did Moses or Jesus command people to use Gab, Parler - or even be "conservative"? You can be fired for being a selfish ass (I'm referring to the donkey hybrid, as befits the biblical narrative) - and that's my interpretation of what happened. What matters now is if the law will al…

> Political affiliation is not a protected class. It is in California (and various other states). https://reason.com/volokh/2020/07/26/laws-protecting-private...

Huh, TIL!

Re: Agent fired from literary agency for using Parler and Gab

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A bit of a tangent but, this is all the result of having people use their real names on the internet. I remember when there was a big push for people to create profiles tied to their real identities with the argument being that everyone would behave themselves if their real lives were connected to the things they did online. That argument is dead as discourse is now. Instead of well mannered discussion between opposi…

There’s no solution because it’s not a technical problem. Something is broken in our culture.

Pseudonyms and team moderation work pretty well, along with the ability to block abusive users. The HN voting system is also helpful.

Re: Agent fired from literary agency for using Parler and Gab

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> I know it sounds like he’s “poisoning the well,” but this comment answered the question I had in my head. I thought the source was left-leaning but the article had a conservative voice. Comment contradicts what is in wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newsweek#2018_investigation_an... Maybe ask for sources before using some random post making unverified claims as confirmation for your own biases.

The summary in Wikipedia may be correct but it is worth remembering that Wikipedia itself is hideously biased to the left at times in its coverage of political issues. I've generally taken that not to be down to malevolence but probably just down to the fact those drawn to editing it are most likely of a similar political hue to those from academia.

When you are in the wrong lane, everybody is going against you?

Has it struck you that maybe the world is actually that way and that they prefer to be that way. Just because it isn't your way doesn't mean that you dismiss the rest of the world.

Re: Agent fired from literary agency for using Parler and Gab

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Not having Facebook or Instagram accounts is a positive hiring signal for me. Having a Fetlife account, regardless of content, is another positive hiring signal for me. (I tend to preferentially hire nonconformists.) Also, the last point is incorrect: being kinky is not a protected class, and one does not even need to be kinky to be on Fetlife. Not hiring someone because they are on Fetlife isn't protected class disc…

> There's no difference asking for Facebook or Instagram or Twitter. LinkedIn is a professional networking - and resume/CV hosting site. Facebook and Instgram are for friends, family, hobbies, and the like. They're worlds apart and it's intellectually dishonest of you to equate them. > Would you hire a photographer without seeing their Instagram? No, I wouldn't. Instagram isn't Flickr, deviantArt, nor their professio…

> They're worlds apart and it's intellectually dishonest of you to equate them.

Absolutely not; public webpages are public webpages. What someone chooses to publish, and where, is an important measure of their personality and attitude.

Re: Agent fired from literary agency for using Parler and Gab

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I have literally seen NYT bestselling authors talk about how they're super excited to publicly heckle an author at his next book signing. And join in on conversations promoting burning his book. His crime? Writing a female character who goes on the run, has limited food, and trains in martial arts--which leads to her losing weight. This was, apparently, fat-shaming and deeply sexist. The authors involved in these thr…

If you go with the horseshoe theory then the far left is barely distinguishable from the far right. The only thing that changes really is the framing of the issue and the motivation. If you're looking at people being criticised because they're not writing characters of their own skin colour or sexuality, or 'staying in their lane' with their culture, or because their own experiences don't conform to some expectation…

I don't think the horseshoe theory works. The critical factor is authoritarianism. Which is a grown-up word for bullying and narcissism.

Authoritarians are invariably toxic damaged people who are full of rage and are looking for a target to make themselves feel better.

Sometimes they end up on the left. Sometimes they end up on the right. Sometimes they end up in management or venture capital.

Same issues, same dynamic, different context.

The difference is authoritarians on the right are more likely to use physical violence. "Cultural" authoritarians are more likely to use social exclusion - brigading on social media, getting people fired, and so on.

The key point is that the presenting issue is irrelevant. The social dynamic and mode of relationship - angry tribalism used to justify violence without any sense of context - is the real tell.

Re: Agent fired from literary agency for using Parler and Gab

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I used find GPs comments insightful, particularly with regard to computer security. Now his comments are predictably and assiduously leftist-political, and rarely on-topic to the article from what I've seen. > The new "Newsweek" capitalizes on the brand reputation of the old one, but has no connections to it From an external perspective it seems like the same argument could be made about the tptacek HN account. The p…

I don’t think it’s fair to disparage someone because they don’t share your political views. tptacek hasnt changed extremely; you just never knew. I’ve been following him on Twitter for years; and I don’t believe he had changed at all - rather HN has had more political stories as the tech sector grew.

In fact I have reason to believe tptacek have mellowed a bit since I first joined HN under another name a decade or so ago.

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> There's no difference asking for Facebook or Instagram or Twitter. LinkedIn is a professional networking - and resume/CV hosting site. Facebook and Instgram are for friends, family, hobbies, and the like. They're worlds apart and it's intellectually dishonest of you to equate them. > Would you hire a photographer without seeing their Instagram? No, I wouldn't. Instagram isn't Flickr, deviantArt, nor their professio…

> They're worlds apart and it's intellectually dishonest of you to equate them. Absolutely not; public webpages are public webpages. What someone chooses to publish, and where, is an important measure of their personality and attitude.

Facebook profiles aren't necessarily public. If I have a private Facebook account that's reserved solely for family matters, what right do you as a prospective employer have to expect to see it?

- I see your point is based on the notion that "if it's public in one space, you intend for it to be public in all spaces in your life" - but that's an incorrect assumption: Fetlife profiles aren't "public" (insofar as Google can't see them), and I don't have my real-life name on it, and I certainly don't intend to share it with anyone whom I want to maintain a strict separation from my private life.

Am I not entitled to a private life? What right do you have to enter my private life?

Can I see your Fetlife account? Can I see inside your house from the street-level windows? Can I bring a ladder to the side of your house and peer into your upstairs bedroom? Where's the limit for you?

Re: Agent fired from literary agency for using Parler and Gab

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Reminds me of Dawn Frederick, a literary agent who was "cancelled" for calling 911 on looters who rammed a van into the gas station on her apartment block: https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/industry-news/p... This happened during the BLM protests this summer in St. Loius. The looters she reported were blocks away from any BLM protest, and other looting bands were setting fires on nearby blocks. Frederick w…

I honestly don't know why people use "post what you're thinking" style social media at all at this point. With employers being so sensitive, how can the cost/benefit analysis ever really result in a determination that it's a good idea to be active on Twitter/Facebook (or Gab, Parler, TheDonald.win, etc.)? Maybe that's part of what makes things get so extreme on those sites. The most reasonable people know enough not…

>The most reasonable people know enough not to risk their livelihoods

This is literal victim blaming. US culture leaders have deep and worsening problems that need to be discussed openly.

Re: Agent fired from literary agency for using Parler and Gab

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A bit of a tangent but, this is all the result of having people use their real names on the internet. I remember when there was a big push for people to create profiles tied to their real identities with the argument being that everyone would behave themselves if their real lives were connected to the things they did online. That argument is dead as discourse is now. Instead of well mannered discussion between opposi…

There’s no solution because it’s not a technical problem. Something is broken in our culture.

Why is something broken in our culture? Humans are mean-spirited at their worst. The internet merely allows you to turn that element up to 10, where in real life you will be shunned going past a relative 2 or 3.
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