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70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by tedjdziuba »

nkrisc wrote: post #118
stuckindider wrote: post #30

Where are the comments about how awful it is for people's private messages to be leaked? Or is this okay because the media told me these guys are the bad guys.

I'm not gonna lie: I find it very difficult to be upset by this when the site was a haven for people who want to mass executions for people like me. For me, the world is a little more complex than "privacy at all costs." It's hard to decide where to draw the line.

Twitter is a haven for the "kill all white people" and "Republicans all deserve to die" supporters.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by ErikVandeWater »

ipsocannibal wrote: post #286
boredumb wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just call everyone a terrorist and absolve your soul of any uneasiness you have with this. Surely this hyperbole hasn't been used in recent history to push authoritarian and unethical measures by state and private actors paving a golden road to hell.

Well what is your suggested response? I think the lack of calling out terrorism and fascism in this country have already resulted four years of "pushing authoritarian and unethical measures" by the US executive.

'"pushing authoritarian and unethical measures" by the US executive' has gone on _much_ longer than 4 years.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by RIMR »

bgentry wrote: post #49
ceejayoz wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it? The article indicates at least some of this comes from merely incrementing an integer in the video URLs. > I am now crawling URLs of all videos uploaded to Parler. Sequentially from latest to oldest. VIDXXX.txt files coming up, 50k chunks, there will be 1.1M URLs total...

People have been sent to prison before for nothing more than fetching publicly available web pages by incrementing numbers in a URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weev

It was a bit more than that. The attack was against AT&T, there was zero public interest in the information from a whistleblower perspective, the victims were customers of AT&T, a telecommunications provider.

Dumping the contents of a far-right website that helped push for Insurrection against the US Government seems pretty tame by comparison.

Also, Weev is open and proudly a Nazi, so the optics of bringing him up while defending the rights of a Fascist website isn't great.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by [deleted] »

whimsicalism wrote: post #355
muspimerol wrote: post #258

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's no hyperbole in the comment. It can still be a safe haven for extremists even if most of the users are not.

Should we still have due process in the external world? After all, the United States is a "safe haven" for people who talk about killing pretty much every minority group under the sun. > the world is a little more complex than "privacy at all costs." The line doesn't have to do with the infringement of privacy, it's about whether that infringement is being done by publicly sanctioned power, or the whim of the arbitra…

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Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by kwertyoowiyop »

_alex_ wrote: post #374
gwbas1c wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a surprising amount of insecure code in the wild; and naive engineers who are willingly ignorant in their security practices. I'd assume that Parler's engineers motivations had more to do with politics than providing a secure platform for protecting dissidents under duress. (Or, if we look at the history of a recent major war, the mediocre engineers working for the other side thought they were the good guys.)

"Cool, I found a package for this"

Scariest comment so far!

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by yanderekko »

TomSwirly wrote: post #321
yanderekko wrote: post #274

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And a lot of insincere attempts to address extremism look like "censoring Republicans".

Republicans have a perfectly good voice on conventional social media. No one's censoring people on social media for quoting William F. Buckley, but for actively planning and encouraging a violent insurrection.

Most people being banned did not do that, including Trump himself, and in fact the rapidly-expanding domain of speech that is being pretextually construed of as "actively planning and encouraging a violent insurrection" is in fact a large part of the problem here.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by [deleted] »

guscost wrote: post #86
beshrkayali wrote: post #69

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The ramifications of this will absolutely set a record for the future as the inevitable reverse will happen. People are forgetting that if they're ok with this sort of behavior now, it'll be difficult for them to argue-against or prevent the same behavior when their opposites are in control.

They are betting everything on the belief that they will win permanently this time, and their opponents will never get control again.

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Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by 0x4d464d48 »

I'm left-winged with absolutely no love for Parler and believe a lot of people have blood on their hands for the violence incited last week.

The security researchers were wrong to make this information publicly available but the fact that Parler actually put their users at risk like this with such a disturbingly glaring security flaw is absolutely infuriating and outrageous. I'm speaking as a believer in civil rights and user protection. Call it growth hacking or try to overlook this as a sympathetic mistake if you wish but this was a disgustingly reckless decision for any competent technical team to make and it deserves profound censure.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by sanedigital »

ipsocannibal wrote: post #269
sanedigital wrote: post #221

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Talk about hyperbole. In no way did even 1% of the population on Parler want mass executions for people like you.

Data, evidence? The threat is in giving the fascist terrorist 1% a microphone not that the other 99% happen to be listening. Parler was lax in policing that 1%.

I'm not the one making the positive claim: if people are so certain there were calls for mass executions on Parler, they should demonstrate it.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by brigandish »

TheRealDunkirk wrote: post #293
dingusthemingus wrote: post #50

Wiki says Parler is a team of 30 people, So realistically, does that mean like 10 devs running a social network with 5-10 million users? I imagine its pretty ceazy there right now after getting booted off AWS, google just banned u off play store, so cant use them, i assume they cant use microsoft because theyll ban them there as well, it would be cool to see if they are able to get things up and running again. (Ive n…

What I don't understand is: if you're going to host something like Parler, knowing that it is extremely controversial, why wouldn't you host it yourselves? The money they would have saved over using AWS (at the scale quoted in the previous comments) could have paid for the servers and the people to manage them. I suppose the deplatformers would have just gone after whatever data center they used, though, or if they'd…

> knowing that it is extremely controversial

Aside from it being sad that supporting free speech is controversial, if we assume good faith in the founders' statements then the controversy is simply the way the media has highlighted a section of the user base. Have you been on there? I haven't but I've been around long enough not to rely on the media for accurate representations of groups on the internet (or much else, to be honest.)

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