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Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Post by ayroblu »

_5yoy wrote: post #267
ayroblu wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These things aren't cut and dry, but probably what you mean is that without the vaccine you're increasing the possibility of passing the disease on to at risk groups.

Not sure why you're telling me what I mean? At risk populations have the same choices I have. I will choose to wait because I am not at risk. The risk level is obviously a factor that should play a part in making an individual's choice. Now, for the people that _cannot_ get the vaccine for whatever reason, ultimately my decision is definitely more selfish, in that I am taking precautions in favor of my own safety as…

Yes, emphasis is sometimes not clear, so just highlighting that you yourself are unlikely to die as you highlighted, but the increased likelihood of passing the disease on to those who can't take the vaccine is of greater emphasis

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Post by NikolaeVarius »

_5yoy wrote: post #127
bognition wrote: post #12

I'm surprised to see such a high percentage of "NO" responses. I'm genuinely curious to understand why

I will take it after a year or two. The US did a great job at politicizing the virus such that I don't really trust that pharma companies actually did their due diligence with regard to testing and safety measures. I accept that doctors and scientists will take it under the guise of them "knowing it's safe", and I accept that lots of people will say "If they're doing it, you should too", but I think this strategy jus…

No, you are accepting the possibility that you may get COVID and die and that you may be spreading it to other people who may contract it.

Most people in this thread seems to be forgetting that second part.

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Post by pc86 »

jkw wrote: post #49

I think there's a difference between: (a) I WILL WAIT because I don't trust it yet, and (b) I WILL WAIT because I want to let the more at-risk people to have access it to first That seems to be lost in the poll

I'm not aware of any localities or nations that are just dumping the vaccines off at a pharmacy and letting people do what they want. Everywhere has a roll-out plan, with healthcare workers and high-risk individuals prioritized over the totally healthy mid-20's athlete. So (b) in your list isn't really a concern. If you have access to it, you should get it.

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Post by iso947 »

choward wrote: post #326
dang wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25097578 (which led to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25097685 ) Evidence that no one reads the FAQ! https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html

Why would I read the FAQ if I don't have any questions?

For questions you don’t know you have. I read the iperf man page earlier for laughs, discovered the -B option which I’d forgotten existed.

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Post by tux1968 »

blueline wrote: post #320
tux1968 wrote: post #274

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not enough to know with absolute certainty what will happen when millions of people get it. Especially unforeseen reactions that take several years to appear. As much as you trust each of the (5?) vaccines, you yourself can not know for certainty.. there is some doubt. You may judge that that uncertainty and risk is minimal and well worth taking the vaccine, another completely rational person may decide that it is no…

Well luckily we _do_ know what happens with a great deal of certainty when you get actually infected with covid, and it turns out it sucks pretty hard. i find this "better the devil you know" mindset really weird when the "devil you know" is an extremely infectious virus that has killed _three hundred thousand_ americans (not to mention more worldwide), and thousands more by the day. these hypothetical vaccine side e…

Those are certainly arguments you can make.

But you have to acknowledge that there are huge incentives for the drug manufacturers to have a successful test and a healthy scepticism until they have been truly independently verified isn't unwarranted.

Also a pure, as tested, vaccine doesn't magically appear for your inoculation, there is manufacturing, and delivery, and other potential contamination points along the way. It means what goes into your system isn't necessarily what has shown to be safe; not a huge risk, but a risk nonetheless.

It would have made me feel better if you had started out your reply by saying.. "yes there are risks to this vaccine, but..". That way I would know we're working from the same starting point and I could trust that your views are calm and considered, and that you accept the reality that there is indeed risk to taking a foreign substance into your bloodstream.

Many of us know people who have had Covid, and it wasn't a very big deal. Even fat old Donald Trump shrugged it off in a few days; granted he had the best medical care possible. That's not to diminish the loss of loved ones that have surely been taken by Covid. But it can make one question the statistical importance of Covid in the larger scheme of things.

Again, i'm not really arguing with your points, just that they need to be presented with honesty, we shouldn't put a religious halo around vaccines; we should be clear about the risks too.

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Post by bsder »

dustinmoris wrote: post #160
bognition wrote: post #12

I'm surprised to see such a high percentage of "NO" responses. I'm genuinely curious to understand why

Pregnant women or women who are planning on becoming pregnant should not have it according to UK government guidelines. That’s a pretty good reason to click NO.

Um, you do know that alcohol is something that pregnant women should avoid?

Will you quit drinking alcohol?

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Post by chrononaut »

(reads news)

"The F.D.A. accelerates its timeline to authorize the Pfizer vaccine to Friday evening after a threat from Trump's chief of staff: The White House told the F.D.A chief he should start working on his next job if he didn't get the vaccine authorization done Friday, an official said." -- NYTimes

... I think I will select, "I WILL WAIT"

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Post by rychco »

Hippasus wrote: post #305

I will not be taking anything under any sort of widespread social pressure or appeals to authority. I fundamentally lack trust in modern medicine and society in general to the point that it doesn't matter what "scientific evidence" says. Modern medical care gives us robotic, heartless nonsense like "routine" circumcision. Humanity cannot be trusted to act intelligently and empathically on a collective level. I'm a sk…

> It's "fuck you, I don't trust you to work in my best interests".

While I'm not sure that the rest isn't edgy satire, I definitely agree with this. This vaccine in particular has become a political talking point and moral soapbox.

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