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Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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> Why is it scary that your computer checks for malware? It isn't just checking for malware, its broadcasting your app opening behavior to apple and anyone else who might be listening. > It’s not like Apple us building a database of apps you’ve launched linked to your address and social security number. You know this how? Seriously, I don't get why you would believe that.

Because Apple would not benefit from doing so, I’m fact could be hugely damaged doing so. They don’t have any significant advertising business. They don’t need to collect any personally identifiable information. They’ve promoted their brand by putting their customers privacy first. So why would you believe they would intentionally risk all of that here?

Only if catched. You've claimed Linux does similar checks. Linux is not a company, it is community. They don't need to collect PI, they don't play PR.

Why would private company not utilize leverage? You have no source, you can't even turn off these checks without hacks. Privacy first is open source and audit. It is removing feature people don't want.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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You've got to be kidding me. When Apple's servers are down, all Macs worldwide start freezing randomly? My XCode is hanging during builds, is this why? This code signing enforcement stuff has gone way too far. Heads should roll for this.

"Heads should roll for this" - careful with the language. Nowadays you may get banned for preaching "beheading".

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Sincerely and without any intention to troll or be sarcastic: I'm puzzled that people are willing buy a computer/OS where (apparently) software can/will fail to launch if some central company server goes down. Maybe I'm just getting this wrong, because I can honestly not quite wrap my head around this. This is such a big no-go, from a systems design point of view. Even beyond unintentional glitches at Apple, just ima…

> I'm puzzled that people are willing buy a computer/OS where (apparently) software can/will fail to launch if some central company server goes down. Maybe I'm just getting this wrong, because I can honestly not quite wrap my head around this. This is such a big no-go, from a systems design point of view. The answer is pretty simple: these problems are extremely rare, they don't last very long, and they tend to have…

Without principles, your freedom will be (is being!) slowly chiseled away, pragmatically accepting each small step. By the time even pragmatism tells you to refuse, it'll be too late.

That's exactly what happened in Hong Kong: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/09/technology/apple-hong-kon...

But it could never happen here...

(As someone pointed out, this does more than just prevent apps from running - it also leaks which apps you use and how often. Someone could ask Apple exactly when you started Tor browser, for example)

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Most people trade their freedom for more convenience, but we don't think how we put all our eggs in one basket that we don't control at all. All Apple users are at the mercy of a megacorp. Better don't offend someone online, your Mac may be cancelled...

This is a series of cliches strung together.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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"If you're now experiencing hangs launching apps on the Mac, I figured out the problem using Little Snitch." Well, how interesting that Apple's software is going to be bypassing Little Snitch, making it harder to discover and fix this sort of issue.

> Well, how interesting that Apple's software is going to be bypassing Little Snitch, making it harder to discover and fix this sort of issue. Source?

Apple themselves: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210999

They are disallowing custom kernel extensions and instead requiring apps like Little Snitch to use their system API. This means that Apple has total control of how these apps function and what they can see.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Sincerely and without any intention to troll or be sarcastic: I'm puzzled that people are willing buy a computer/OS where (apparently) software can/will fail to launch if some central company server goes down. Maybe I'm just getting this wrong, because I can honestly not quite wrap my head around this. This is such a big no-go, from a systems design point of view. Even beyond unintentional glitches at Apple, just ima…

I think it comes down to humans being creatures of habit and conservation of energy. I've seen people buy macs even after seeing all the flaws because it's what they're used to and don't want to exert energy learning a new OS and environment. Apple used to make great products and I think people still cling on to that thought, even though their quality has been degrading these past years. Something needs to be 10x better (or at least perceived that way) for people to switch and switching to a new OS for them is probably like a 1x improvement so not worth the time cost.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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A compelling way to enact change at large corporates is to vocally communicate when and why you are forced back into a buying position as a customer.

Apple VPs who are listening, especially Craig Federighi - here is an early warning for you. The HN crowd may seem fringe, but they are living in the future. I de-Googled my entire life over similar transgressions by Google and several of my friends are gradually going through the same process, albeit more slowly.

And even though I just bought an MBP16, Apple monitoring every binary I run makes me want to sell it immediately and never buy another iPhone, Watch or Macbook. No one is going to catch Apple on performance and form factor for a long time, but I'm willing to invest in a long-term ecosystem that won't allow things like this...as long as I don't need to debug audio drivers. I am done with that phase of my life.

So if I had to choose an alternate path, what would such a path look like that could eventually approach the build quality of an Apple Macbook Pro? That product doesn't have to exist yet, it just has to be on the path.

(I looked at Alienware's M2 and M3, but it cost about the same as an MBP16 but with more blue LEDs.)

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