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Re: YouTube TV sharply increases monthly subscription to $64.99

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Post by acdha » Wed, Jul 01, 2020, 12:41 PM UTC

ResidentSleeper wrote: post #227

mnm1 wrote: post #78

Have they figured out how to play the show you click on yet? No. $50 a month and the basic functionality of the app doesn't even work. With a Chromecast, it's even worse. Eventually, after clicking back and forth, disconnecting and reconnecting, it may play. Then you have to turn off the closed captioning for every single show even though it's off in the settings. Then it randomly stops at times. The ui displays the…

Parent comment might come off as offensive, but it very accurately represents my experience with several Google apps that I've been using recently (YouTube, Google Play Music/YouTube Music, Google Photos, Google Maps, ...). But I'm on Firefox, so I guess nobody cares.

The experience on iOS is similar - the lack of respect which Google has for basic QA testing has been painfully obvious. I’m not sure why they want to train people to think that their products are only worth it at free but they’re doing a great job.

Re: YouTube TV sharply increases monthly subscription to $64.99

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Post by Dylan16807 » Wed, Jul 01, 2020, 12:43 PM UTC

schnable wrote: post #370

kangaroozach wrote: post #150

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It was a brilliant $100m bet that backfired for no good reason.

No good reason? They tried to exploit a technical loophole that was clearly against the spirit of the contracts and law.

But there's no good reason that it's legal to buy a server and stick an antenna on it, but it's not legal to rent a preconfigured server that has an antenna on it.

There wouldn't be loopholes if the law was consistent, and I would argue there is no 'spirit' in such a confusing set of rules.

Re: YouTube TV sharply increases monthly subscription to $64.99

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Post by dreamcompiler » Wed, Jul 01, 2020, 12:45 PM UTC

CamperBob2 wrote: post #226

mfkp wrote: post #215

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That's why I pay ~$5/mo for satellite radio. I don't even drive that much but it's worth it to not listen to ads the whole time.

Even on SiriusXM, the DJs never seem to shut up. One of my fondest "one of these days" project ideas: duct-tape a correlator to an RF front end, along with enough storage to "Tivoize" the local FM band. Record everything, recognize and redact any content that reoccurs within 30-second windows, and rebroadcast it for household/car consumption.

This is something modern AI could easily do. And it could go further: It could have 20 or so tuners built in (FM tuners are cheap) and constantly be scanning/listening for non-commercials/non-talk and songs in the genres you like.

Re: YouTube TV sharply increases monthly subscription to $64.99

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Post by dreamcompiler » Wed, Jul 01, 2020, 12:47 PM UTC

kaetemi wrote: post #373

relyks wrote: post #334

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An even better idea, if you're preferential to radio DJs: have a recording setup and Shazam-like recognition system where a Spotify playlist or queue is made from what's being played. I was considering doing that as a project. The song choice by the radio DJs is the real value, and I sometimes prefer their playlists over my recommended daily mix playlists or whatever Spotify selects on the generated radio stations. T…

Aren't the song titles usually broadcast along as metadata, and broadcast on web players?

Not often enough or reliably enough, and not on every station. It would help but you'd still need Shazam.

Re: YouTube TV sharply increases monthly subscription to $64.99

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Post by briandear » Wed, Jul 01, 2020, 12:50 PM UTC

vasco wrote: post #235

CamperBob2 wrote: post #226

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Even on SiriusXM, the DJs never seem to shut up. One of my fondest "one of these days" project ideas: duct-tape a correlator to an RF front end, along with enough storage to "Tivoize" the local FM band. Record everything, recognize and redact any content that reoccurs within 30-second windows, and rebroadcast it for household/car consumption.

They went about it differently but already made it, it's called Spotify.

Pandora you mean?

Re: YouTube TV sharply increases monthly subscription to $64.99

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Post by briandear » Wed, Jul 01, 2020, 12:51 PM UTC

nojito wrote: post #354

mysterydip wrote: post #331

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Even PBS has ads nowadays. At the beginning of a show, "sesame street was brought to you today by support from viewers like you, and..." (ad for abcmouse, some minivan, etc plays)

PBS has always been like that. That's how public broadcasting works.

It’s “ad free” yet “sponsors” still get their name on the air.

How is that not advertising?

Re: YouTube TV sharply increases monthly subscription to $64.99

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Post by briandear » Wed, Jul 01, 2020, 12:57 PM UTC

Still no weather channel?

Re: YouTube TV sharply increases monthly subscription to $64.99

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Post by masklinn » Wed, Jul 01, 2020, 12:58 PM UTC

astura wrote: post #328

applecrazy wrote: post #220

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Holy crap. Half-hour shows are basically YouTube videos in terms of length

And yet YouTube videos themselves are approximately 30% non-content. https://www.dictionary.com/e/pop-culture/the-wadsworth-const...

> And yet YouTube videos themselves are approximately 30% non-content.

That's "non-useful" content rather than "non-content", those 30% are intro and filler which you might also find in non-youtube content. And obviously it also depends strongly on what kind of content you're using youtube for. Skipping the first 30% of a recital is probably going to skip interesting content.

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Post by leereeves » Wed, Jul 01, 2020, 1:01 PM UTC

astura wrote: post #356

leereeves wrote: post #95

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Which makes this seem like a very bad time to raise prices, with so many live sporting events cancelled because of the pandemic.

Both baseball and basketball are starting up again at the end of July.

But the NBA will only be playing 8 games plus playoffs, and MLB will only be playing 60 games (one third of a regular season), right?

Re: YouTube TV sharply increases monthly subscription to $64.99

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Post by acdha » Wed, Jul 01, 2020, 1:07 PM UTC

Shivetya wrote: post #349

judge2020 wrote: post #149

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I would doubt more than 1% are in that category - $50 (now 65) a month raises more mental alarms than your old $11 Netflix subscription.

Well Netflix 4K is $16 a month. Which pretty much puts it above Disney+ let along D+ with Hulu/ESPN. Then you have HBO which still acts as if they are truly premium, if anything they are the binge a month channel. Many made the joke when Cable companies started losing subs to internet streaming sites that people would end up paying more. The big catch is most people forget to factor in their internet cost writing it…

> The big catch is most people forget to factor in their internet cost writing it off mentally as "I was already going to have it", a sentiment the streaming services want you to have.

It reads oddly for you to present something unequivocally true as a catch, especially during a pandemic when most people are especially relying on internet service to talk with friends and family, work, and education.