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I've though about this a lot and the big problems in the way of this are state and loading time. The state is a problem because keeping a tab open is the only way to preserve most of its state (scrolling, forms, etc.) and the loading time to cold-load a page makes bookmarks much less appealing for things that are related to what I'm currently doing. After those two issues are fixed, the rest is just UI. I think Edge…
State is why we use tabs instead of history. A lot of this thread is about what to do with tabs once they are opened, not analyzing why they open the way they do. Back is unreliable. The page might reload, dynamic pages like reddit will generate new results or reorder them. The safe thing to do is click all links in new tabs and then come back to the original link page. Right clicking the back and forth buttons hides…
Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs
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Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs
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I would agree with you here. I don't understand why tabs, bookmarks, and history aren't just merged into one feature. History needs to be less ephemeral, but more easily editable. Then you could add some sort of ctrl-p style fuzzy search that includes both url and content, as well as a knob that dials up or down the number of visible tabs/history items, and they'd fall off with disuse. You could pin some to the top o…
This, combined with automatic archival. I hate coming back to a tab I’ve opened months ago, only to see that the content has disappeared.
Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs
#383I use Tree Style Tabs in Firefox, but I have mixed feelings about it. It should help me visually find tabs, but truth of the matter is that it doesn't. Horizontal tabs become useless after 10 tabs opened, indeed, but vertical tabs become useless after 30 tabs opened. Opened tabs also consume a lot of memory. It's why I now use Auto Tab Discard, which works, but then gets in the way because by Ctrl-Tab-ing you end up…
Instead, I found the Panorama/Tab Groups feature (before FF removed it, now preserved via addons like https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/panorama-tab-...) to be a better immediate fit for my workflow.
The focus on groups and visible thumbnails makes it easy to pick out the tabs I want visually. I'm not sure how well it holds up once you get to 100s of tabs, but for my average of around 20-40 or so (spread over several windows) it works well, and does a good job of helping to maintain context separation.
Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs
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I think I found my kindred spirit! I have one Firefox instance presently at 3 windows and 3379 tabs and another with 10 windows and somewhere north of 2300 tabs. I wouldn't dare do this under Chrome/Chromium. On my system at least, I've noticed that Firefox does get less responsive around 8000+ tabs. Mostly it's just the start up that complains. Sometimes I'll get annoyed and mass-bookmark/close tabs (filed under dat…
Oh, there are kindred spirits here. I've recommended this on other tab-related discussions but Tab Stats is one of the few Firefox addons that have been worth using as a tab hoarder. Allows me to see which pages are open in multiple tabs and then deduplicate them if needed, or just looking at (or closing) open tabs based on domain. (I'm not affiliated with the creator and it's not without its own annoyances, but stil…
I don't find it too tedious to go through and nuke things I know aren't useful long term (they're usually shunted to a separate throw away window for this reason!), but there's no easy solution for tab deduplication. What you've linked looks like it fits the bill!
Thank you!
Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs
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As a tab Horder I also use FF, though it gets very slow with 100 tabs after some time on OS X (iMacPro).
Really? I have, right now, 290 opened tabs dangling from the hacker news homepage and about 20 other "root" tabs with more trees. All in all, ~450 opened tabs in 6 different containers. Firefox is using ~8% of CPU and 670MB of RAM. Macbook Pro retina mid 2012.
Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs
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Really? I have, right now, 290 opened tabs dangling from the hacker news homepage and about 20 other "root" tabs with more trees. All in all, ~450 opened tabs in 6 different containers. Firefox is using ~8% of CPU and 670MB of RAM. Macbook Pro retina mid 2012.
After two weeks open? Then there is something I'm doing wrong.
No addons other than uBlock Origin, TST and LastPass.
Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs
#387I use Tree Style Tabs in Firefox, but I have mixed feelings about it. It should help me visually find tabs, but truth of the matter is that it doesn't. Horizontal tabs become useless after 10 tabs opened, indeed, but vertical tabs become useless after 30 tabs opened. Opened tabs also consume a lot of memory. It's why I now use Auto Tab Discard, which works, but then gets in the way because by Ctrl-Tab-ing you end up…
Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs
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In principle yes. The problem is that they loose their topicness and quickly become "oh this was the closest virtual desktops to where you were in the grid with an empty space." This is largely because I made the mistake of originally implementing the transition system as a grid (this was 5 years ago or so). Since then I realized that I basically want a button that will let me create a new topic space, and then remov…
Reading your comments put into words a behavior pattern I didn't fully recognize I'd adopted, though certainly not to the extreme as you (or with the direct intent). I noticed that my tab + window use started to balloon when it occurred to me that rather than dividing virtual desktops by task (one for dev, one for email/general browsing, etc) I could start moving browser windows from each instance to different locati…
Rearrangement of the contents of virtual desktops and the desktops themselves is a topic in and of itself. The emacs world has a lot of tooling around this as well (see for example [0]), and the are a number of patterns/workflows for managing/composing/recombining workspaces that would surely translate other window managers since they deal with essentially the same issues.
For me the issue tends to be that it is easier and faster to create a new window of whatever kind wherever I am to answer the immediate need than to find the right one to answer it in, so I just open a new terminal window, jump to where I need to be, do what I need to do, and then ... forget to close it. Similar issue with dragging a browser window around with me wherever I go. One answer to this might be to slightly modify the behavior of the "open new instance of this program" key to act instead as "jump to most recent instance of this program, or if it does not exist, create it and jump to it."
One thing related to gc is that I started to work on but did not manage to complete, was the ability to snapshot the layout of all windows across all desktops in an x session. That would allow effective patterns to persist across restarts without the need to come up with a way to specify how things should be arranged. It would allow them to be arranged by whatever means, saved, and restored. I'll probably get back to it at some point.
As a note, anyone with the inclination can do this kind of thing in any language as long as it has xlib bindings.
Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs
#389Neat, and works well for the toy example with 4 tabs open. I don't really think it would work as well for the "tab collectors" as they think. They seem to be aware of this too, since none of the screenshots in the post have anywhere near what I would consider a significant amount of tabs open. I use the tree style tab extension on Firefox[0], which I cannot live without. Horizontal tabs become useless after about 15…
wish if there's anything similar to TreeTabs in chrome. I'm currently using OneTab
Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs
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wish if there's anything similar to TreeTabs in chrome. I'm currently using OneTab
What keeps you from using Firefox, if you don't mind my asking?