New iPhone SE • Hacker News Board

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by lucascantor » Wed, Apr 15, 2020, 4:58 PM UTC

rawrmaan wrote: post #98

As a son, I am sad that my mom will not get to have her preferred screen size (4") in her next phone. As a developer, I'm ecstatic that I'll never have to think about supporting a tiny 4" screen again.

I’d assume this new SE, like the 6, 6S, 7, and 8 before it, will continue to prompt users during the initial out-of-box setup process if they want to run their display in “zoomed-in” mode, making the resolution effectively identical to the 4” screen of the older smaller phones.

This is effectively an accessibility feature, but Apple proactively prompts users to enable it.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by jotm » Wed, Apr 15, 2020, 4:58 PM UTC

I actually like the "borders" on top and bottom, makes it easier to hold and use the phone.

That said, Apple is really taking the piss with these displays. Just like the iPhone 11, not only is the resolution laughable (Apple used to be a leader here, what happened?) but it's also IPS LCD, which uses more power and has worse viewing angles and colors.

OLEDs are excellent and competitors at this price point have them, so why not Apple?

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by sgt » Wed, Apr 15, 2020, 4:58 PM UTC

ivraatiems wrote: post #64

As a current iPhone SE user, here's my assessment: Pros: * Feature set in terms of processor, camera, etc., is exactly what I want * Continued presence of Touch ID is a huge plus, I don't like Face ID * Price point is, admittedly, fantastic Cons: * Lack of headphone jack is still unacceptable * Form factor is, candidly, still too big for my tiny hands * Color schemes aren't as nice as the SE's (can I contribute to CO…

Headphone jack is overrated. Keep the DAC as close to your ears as possible if you are an audiophile. For the rest of us casual listeners, the adapter is fairly cheap and just keep one connected to your headphones (or in the headphone bag if you got one).

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by alkonaut » Wed, Apr 15, 2020, 4:59 PM UTC

Wow this is pretty aggressively priced. It’s very unlike Apple to self-compete like this. It looks like this will eat into the iPhone 11 sales.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Apr 15, 2020, 4:59 PM UTC

ivraatiems wrote: post #64

As a current iPhone SE user, here's my assessment: Pros: * Feature set in terms of processor, camera, etc., is exactly what I want * Continued presence of Touch ID is a huge plus, I don't like Face ID * Price point is, admittedly, fantastic Cons: * Lack of headphone jack is still unacceptable * Form factor is, candidly, still too big for my tiny hands * Color schemes aren't as nice as the SE's (can I contribute to CO…

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Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by detaro » Wed, Apr 15, 2020, 5:00 PM UTC

devy wrote: post #361

ivraatiems wrote: post #64

As a current iPhone SE user, here's my assessment: Pros: * Feature set in terms of processor, camera, etc., is exactly what I want * Continued presence of Touch ID is a huge plus, I don't like Face ID * Price point is, admittedly, fantastic Cons: * Lack of headphone jack is still unacceptable * Form factor is, candidly, still too big for my tiny hands * Color schemes aren't as nice as the SE's (can I contribute to CO…

> * Lack of headphone jack is still unacceptable Sorry, you can't have IP67 water resistance with that 3.5mm headphone jack. Edit: a lot of folks proved me wrong. I feel that I need to clarify: Apple's design goal is to make it thiner, more integrated, less components more battery space and unified input/output interface, all that combined with water resistance, is not practical. All the 3.5mm examples I am seeing do…

Motorola Moto x4 has both.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by rchaud » Wed, Apr 15, 2020, 5:00 PM UTC

danso wrote: post #344

bluedevil2k wrote: post #2

An upgraded iPhone 8 with a starting storage of 64 Gb at only $399. Seems like a great deal. Makes me seriously consider this model for my next phone instead of spending $1200 on an iPhone 11 Max.

Yeah, I priced out the 256GB model and saw that it was $299, if I were to trade in my 8+. I reflexively assumed the store had an error and reloaded the page. Can't remember the last time I've seen a new Apple device priced at <$300 (iPod nano?)

I believe the 4GB HDD iPod was priced at $250 back in 2004 or 2005. The base model iPod Photo was $299.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by hosh » Wed, Apr 15, 2020, 5:01 PM UTC

goatlover wrote: post #322

koheripbal wrote: post #270

Earlier quoted context omitted.

...as someone who absolutely loves big phones - I am on the other side of this argument. I read and watch shows on my phone constantly, and screen size is a major factor for me. I specifically buy clothes with larger pockets to accommodate. I agree that choice would be better - but I imagine that economies of scale sometimes means having only one size for everyone if you want to keep them cheaper than the competition…

I never understood watching stuff on a phone given tablets, laptops, PCs, smartTVs and even VR headsets. But then again, I take my laptop everywhere and use it for everything when there's a choice between the two.

Back when I was going minimalist and traveling more, I learned to watch my shows on the phone. I would lay on the couch or in bed and watch it with headphones. I ditched my desktop. For me, it was about having a few, high quality tech than a profusion of tech. If a device can serve multiple purposes, even better.

Now I am more settled and have a family, I watch things on my phone a lot less.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by egypturnash » Wed, Apr 15, 2020, 5:01 PM UTC

eyes the specs

eyes her 6s and the very nice earbuds that can still plug into it

ponders other things she could do with $400

I miss the Actually Small form factor but I've gotten used to the slightly larger 6s and I sure don't miss it four hundred bucks plus the cost of some bluetooth earbuds and having to hassle with keeping the bluetooth Square reader powered up the next time I sell stuff at a comics con.

I think this is a fine day to buy a new case to replace the one that I got along with the phone. It's been slowly falling apart and I'm worried it might not save the phone the next time I drop it. Twenty bucks for a black Speck and ten bucks for a gold accent Popsocket. Sounds good.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by nicwolff » Wed, Apr 15, 2020, 5:01 PM UTC

Just a reminder that the terrific old 4" iPhone SE is still available refurbished on Amazon for about $100. Runs the current OS and all apps. Camera sucks by modern standards.