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Firefox 72.0

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Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by saghm »

alistproducer2 wrote: post #380

I switched to ff a couples years ago and up until the last few months everything has been great. Now a lot of important sites don't work because the content security policy is completely inflexible. It should allow me to make exceptions on sites I chose. I've had to install chrome just for a couple sites and now its just easier to make chrome my daily driver again. The ff team should consider making the CSP flexible.

Out of curiosity, what sites did you have trouble with? I also switched to Firefox a year or two ago, and I haven't had anything noticeably break recently, so I'm curious if I'm just not going to the sites that have issues or if there's something else different in my config that solves it.

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by ksec »

Twirrim wrote: post #40

"Firefox replaces annoying notification request pop-ups with a more delightful experience, by default for all users. The pop-ups no longer interrupt your browsing, in its place, a speech bubble will appear in the address bar when you interact with the site." That should pretty much kill off a lot of the notification request crap, especially if Chrome follows suit. I can envision the conversion rate massively falling…

I still remember Chrome and Firefox Engineers saying it would provide much better experience to user.

That was the era when majority of public opinion on Google was Do no Evil. And Google at the time can do no wrong.

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by DrJaws »

coldfire wrote: post #376

As a long time Chrome user, and someone who (admittedly) said to a FF fan about an year ago, that it's too late for FF to catch up to Chrome now. I gave FF another shot about 6 months ago, and I'm liking it more every month since then. It has been my primary browser outside of work, the major reason I use Chrome now is for Chrome Dev Tools. Also, some websites don't behave well in FF and I find that most of the time…

wouldn't firefox dev edition give you the tools you need?

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/developer/

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by Normal_gaussian »

tpmx wrote: post #178
fauigerzigerk wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I assume you mean new tabs? No, I mean windows. Opening tabs is very fast. Many of my workflows begin by opening an new empty browser window. I also tend to open links in new windows instead of tabs. I'm not a huge fan of tabs generally.

That's probably a pretty unusual scenario, generally speaking. On Mac I can see it making sense. Makes me curious to try out this browsing workflow...

I don't think it is.

Whilst there are the "every tab in o e window open forever" people, there are plenty of "window for task" people.

Personally, I have been a window for task person 'since forever' (tabs are context depth in said task, hence "close tabs to right" being one of the most useful features).

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by Normal_gaussian »

ksec wrote: post #382
Twirrim wrote: post #40

"Firefox replaces annoying notification request pop-ups with a more delightful experience, by default for all users. The pop-ups no longer interrupt your browsing, in its place, a speech bubble will appear in the address bar when you interact with the site." That should pretty much kill off a lot of the notification request crap, especially if Chrome follows suit. I can envision the conversion rate massively falling…

I still remember Chrome and Firefox Engineers saying it would provide much better experience to user. That was the era when majority of public opinion on Google was Do no Evil. And Google at the time can do no wrong.

I've built quite a few web apps that make decent use of notifications. But then the users explixitly wanted to know the things being notified.

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by acemarke »

zipperhead wrote: post #268
L_Rahman wrote: post #261

I'm honestly surprised that we aren't talking about tab behavior here. Literally the only reason I keep using Chrome is that no matter how many tabs I have open, they're all visible at the top. There's visual persistence of state. On Firefox, even with the trick of reducing minimum tab width, my tabs overflow and I have to click through to get different groups of tabs. It is utterly maddening and I don't know why eve…

If you want to talk about tab behaviour, you might want to have a look at the Tree Style Tabs extension: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-style-ta... Tabs are placed in the sidebar, nested in collapsible trees, with a scrollbar. It's a major game changer.

Still the primary reason why I use Firefox. It allows me to have effectively an infinite number of tabs open, grouped, organized, and opened based on what I'm actually trying to get done now, or what I need to get back to later.

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by Normal_gaussian »

butz wrote: post #303

With notification spam fixed, how about tackling cookie banners spam next? Let's work on a standard to allow user to set their preferred cookie settings level once in browser UI and keep websites clean.

I don't feel the same about cookies from HN, Facebook, GitLab, Slack, Amazon, Pentland Ferries, Ennerdale Brewery, or my mum's blog.

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by arielm »

DrJaws wrote: post #383
coldfire wrote: post #376

As a long time Chrome user, and someone who (admittedly) said to a FF fan about an year ago, that it's too late for FF to catch up to Chrome now. I gave FF another shot about 6 months ago, and I'm liking it more every month since then. It has been my primary browser outside of work, the major reason I use Chrome now is for Chrome Dev Tools. Also, some websites don't behave well in FF and I find that most of the time…

wouldn't firefox dev edition give you the tools you need? https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/developer/

Thanks for the tip!

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by efreak »

coldpie wrote: post #125
fauigerzigerk wrote: post #84

Here's my Firefox wishlist: - Open new windows more quickly. Firefox feels sluggish (on Mac) even though it isn't, simply because it opens new windows far more slowly than Safari or Chrome. - Use the platform native key store. I don't want my passwords stored unencrypted on disk. But I don't want to enter a separate master password either. I do want to use fingerprint/face unlock on mobile to reveal passwords. - Give…

> - Give me a setting to autoconfirm all cookie consent requests and lobby for a legally binding do-not-track header. Cookie consent was well meaning, but it has turned out to make things worse. Let's move on. Most of those are implemented in JS, so NoScript goes a pretty long way to fixing this. It would be nice if Firefox somehow auto-detected them, and other useless pop-overs, and nuked them.

Unfortunately, browsing with JavaScript disabled on mobile, I've noticed quite a large number of sites (usually WordPress blogs) that have the opt out button in the HTML, controlled server-side, so you have to enable JavaScript at least once to get rid of it.

Given that I prefer brave or bromite custom tabs (via Lynket) for short sessions on mobile (and prefer not to have long sessions on mobile at all), I generally just deal with it.

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