Nice. Hope these changes make it down to the 13" (or new 14") model.
16-inch MacBook Pro
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Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro
#382Would it materially harm a company with a trillion dollar market cap to offer a version of this without the touchbar (thus yielding a lower price), so people can afford to upgrade the soldered memory and NVMe drive? Would it also harm them to make a version that didn't have soldered memory/NVMe drive? Ultimately, this is why I switched to a Dell Latitude. Being user hostile to basic memory/disk replacement doesn't fl…
Yep. This is why I made the linux switch and I'm a happy Dell customer because of it.
Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro
#383> Inverted-T arrow keys! A millimeter of key travel! Which is still quite poor - Thinkpads offer between 1.3 to 1.9mm of travel depending on the model. It is surprising that a $1Trillion computer hardware company cannot design the best keyboard in the world while tiny Lenovo seems to have done much better. Why would a "pro" user care more thinness and form than the usability of the primary input mechanism? Add: It's…
I like the macbook pro's keyboard out of the box. The low-travel clicking feels ideal to me, for maybe that first week. Of course, my issue is that they have some sort of internal catastrophic process failure if they were able to release a keyboard that fails so consistently. It wasn't just bad design, it was a process that seemingly did zero testing behind some Apple employees typing "hello world" on a ground floor…
It wasn't just the design or testing process that was bad, it was how they responded and it's ongoing. The four-year free keyboard replacement program is only temporary and was only put in place after many people paid for the expensive repair while Apple stayed silent then claimed it affected very few people.
Now that Apple has alternative hardware what they do next is very important - will they replace the lemons or spend the next decade claiming they're not responsible in court? Will the four year keyboard program be extended or are the 2016 MBPs almost junk already?
Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro
#384> Inverted-T arrow keys! A millimeter of key travel! Which is still quite poor - Thinkpads offer between 1.3 to 1.9mm of travel depending on the model. It is surprising that a $1Trillion computer hardware company cannot design the best keyboard in the world while tiny Lenovo seems to have done much better. Why would a "pro" user care more thinness and form than the usability of the primary input mechanism? Add: It's…
Well, from someone who's had to rely on his work-issued Thinkpad a lot over the last week... Thinkpad keyboard are complete crap. Those keys can travel all the way into a garbage can for all I care. I have no idea if this new laptop's keyboard is any good, but it would have to take several steps back before you get to lenovo. One arrow key pops on and off as I use it. (This lappy is 4 months old and I've rarely done…
That sounds like the laptop was dropped or had a drink spilled on it or something, I don't think you should stereotype the entire brand based on it.
Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro
#385"I'm so glad this model has a touchbar" "I would buy a dell xps but only if it had a touchbar" things no one ever said.
I initially found the touchbar to mostly be a gimmick, new for the sake of being new and not really bringing anything useful to the table. A couple of years later and I'm a convert. If I had to buy a new MBP today I would definitely make sure it has a touchbar. It turns out app makers have found some nifty uses for it, like the ability to quickly mute/unmute when in conference calls, quickly changing volume/brightnes…
> It turns out app makers have found some nifty uses for it, like the ability to quickly mute/unmute when in conference calls, quickly changing volume/brightness, stepping through code while debugging etc etc.
Maybe I've just had a limited, poor experience with it, but from the apps I've used these functions are only available on the touchbar when the app is focused... which has the controls anyway.
I was using Skype for Business and it had the audio controls in the touch bar, and also on the screen about 1.5" inches above the touchbar. I wanted to mute and unmute when I had the app in the background, but I couldn't. Useless.
Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro
#386> Featuring a new Magic Keyboard with a redesigned scissor mechanism and 1mm travel for a more satisfying key feel, the 16-inch MacBook Pro delivers the best typing experience ever in a Mac notebook. Feels like they claim "best typing experience" every time they release a new laptop.
> they claim "best typing experience" every time they release a new laptop
What do you expect them to say?
Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro
#387Can someone explain to me how Apple can justify only including a 720p FaceTime HD camera into the "the world’s best pro notebook"? The last iPhone that had this FaceTime camera was the 6S, released in 2015. Since the iPhone 7 (2016) the phones have had at least a 1080p FaceTime camera. Given that FaceTime / Skype calls are such a common use case and rarely anyones uses external webcams anymore, why doesn't Apple use…
Could it be a limitation in thickness? Laptop display assemblies are thin, which means you need a very small lens and as a result probably can only fit a very small sensor. There's a lot more room for camera modules in phones.
Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro
#388Prediction: These comments will be obscenely hostile toward the new device, yet the new device will rank among Apple's best selling computers to-date.
Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro
#389Can someone explain to me how Apple can justify only including a 720p FaceTime HD camera into the "the world’s best pro notebook"? The last iPhone that had this FaceTime camera was the 6S, released in 2015. Since the iPhone 7 (2016) the phones have had at least a 1080p FaceTime camera. Given that FaceTime / Skype calls are such a common use case and rarely anyones uses external webcams anymore, why doesn't Apple use…
Could be that they are not ready to support that amount of spike in traffic in their FaceTime services, so it's a way to limit it by not beefing up the cameras.
Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro
#390People pay a lot of money for what is in reality an abridged notebook.
"Look, we give you your Esc and arrow keys back"
it's a scam.