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Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by mrich »

leesec wrote: post #236
rainyMammoth wrote: post #225

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Here is what I don't understand: you paid a small fortune for your car and if this was any other car from any other manufacturer you would react like your parent comment. But because it is a Tesla you are dismissing all the issues and sell it as the best car ever. This wouldn't fly with any other car. If you spent 50k$ on a Audi with poor quality you would probably complain about it. It is a pattern I see with nearly…

Yeah so I don't care about the blutooth because my car DRIVES ITSELF a big percent of the time. it's fundamentally changed how I view driving. Stop and Go traffic no longer makes me mad. Road trips no longer exhaust me. There's probably some issues but none that I care about. It feels like driving the future. It's an absolute joy to drive. No gas stations is pretty nice too.

A lot of cars offer that nowadays, although it may be an optional upgrade. My VW van has ACC, lane assist, emergency breaking, warns you if it's not safe to change lanes by flashlight and steering wheel, even if the other car is 40+ meters away but approaching fast, automatic parking, automatic breaking when there is an obstacle or side traffic when parking. It's also a joy on long road trips and I can easily go double the distance than in my previous Audi before getting tired.

That said, I would probably trade it in for a Model S 7-seater if it did cost the same here :)

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by xedeon »

mlindner wrote: post #347
FireBeyond wrote: post #282

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Witness the contradiction right in Tesla's own material: > You can use this while being distracted by a fussy child[1]. > [1] You must be paying full attention to the car.

Look, if you don't like the car, you can just not buy it. Why piss on other people's experiences?

Because it's hip and edgy to hate on Elon/Tesla it seems.. Even though these types haven't even experienced driving the cars.

The experience has been eloquently put by Chamath Palihapitiya in this video:

https://youtu.be/lx6GJADrflk?t=255

Yes, the company is not perfect, but at least they are trying to accelerate the transition to renewables.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by Too »

SECProto wrote: post #329
saalweachter wrote: post #328

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That's called a SAFE FOLLOWING DISTANCE.

> That's called a SAFE FOLLOWING DISTANCE. Hi. Safe following distance is the distance required to safely stop at whatever speed you are going. At a typical speed of 90km/hr (that's usually when this "feature" gets engaged - slowing me to 10km/hr under the limit because that's what someone in front of me is doing), the safe stopping distance is around 80-90 meters (perception+braking in good conditions). The shortest…

You are not going to get to your destination faster by staying closer to the car in front of you. You'll still be restricted to 90 minus 10 km/h.

Not that this is even a problem in the fist place, I've used dozens of cars with ACC, no Toyota in particular though, and all of them allow adjusting within almost armreach close to a long 5sec gap. Put closer distance in heavy traffic to prevent lane jumping in front of you and 5 sec for comfortable highway cruising.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by clouddrover »

xedeon wrote: post #376
clouddrover wrote: post #357

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> Maybe if MB, BMW or Audi leapfrogs Tesla in both charging infrastructure I think this is the wrong perspective. Daimler, BMW, Volkswagen, and others are investing in common charging infrastructure through joint ventures such as Ionity ( https://ionity.eu/en/about.html ). Ionity is available to all EVs that can charge via CCS (which includes Teslas). ICE cars can be fueled at any fuel station regardless of their mak…

If you're not aware, Tesla since the beginning has offered other legacy auto manufacturers unfettered access to the supercharger network if they agree to shoulder the cost. Not a SINGLE one took them up on the offer! https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/tesla-elon-musk-open-supe...

No one else will adopt Tesla's standard. You're avoiding the question rather than answering it.

CCS charging providers allow Teslas to charge on their networks today. When will Tesla reciprocate and convert to CCS?

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by bredren »

automathematics wrote: post #198
bredren wrote: post #84

Is this memeified announce video typical for official Tesla marketing? It’s so casual it is hard to take seriously. Tesla is not your father’s car.

They changed their branding 2-3 months ago. I thought it was weird at first, but it's kinda working. I'm personally sick of all the nice car commercials looking more like a Calvin Klein cologne ad.

Do you recall exactly when? I suspect this video cost almost zero to make. Would be curious to see the changeover. Was it addressed / highlighted at the time?

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by Too »

mensetmanusman wrote: post #356

I have seen a few comments talking about how Tesla’s can’t even read the traffic signs... This is a conscious decision because signs are easily spoofed by black tape. Because speed limits change so infrequently, it is much easier and safer to pull from a lookup table than to read dirty signs and rely on CV...

What about reduced speed at road works?

Humans can also be spoofed by black tape but humans, usually, have common sense to realize that going 100 in a small city road is probably a very bad idea.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by cromka »

kerkeslager wrote: post #355

I want a well-put-together electric car that's completely analog from the user's perspective . There's not a single user-facing digital feature I've ever seen on a car that I wanted, and in fact most of them make things worse. Obviously there's some non-user-facing stuff, i.e. all-wheel-drive, which computerization has revolutionized. But any user-facing stuff is just awful. I want an electric car, but I don't want t…

It's funny cause I used to have the same opinion, but then I saw the new Porsche Taycan and now I think Tesla is still very modest in comparison.

And then you have companies like Mazda who actually advocate the return of analog control (mentioned in another comment here).

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by xedeon »

clouddrover wrote: post #384
xedeon wrote: post #376

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If you're not aware, Tesla since the beginning has offered other legacy auto manufacturers unfettered access to the supercharger network if they agree to shoulder the cost. Not a SINGLE one took them up on the offer! https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/tesla-elon-musk-open-supe...

No one else will adopt Tesla's standard. You're avoiding the question rather than answering it. CCS charging providers allow Teslas to charge on their networks today. When will Tesla reciprocate and convert to CCS?

Take a step back and listen to yourself.

> No one else will adopt Tesla's standard.

Why won't they? They don't have to pay any licensing fees and would save $$ on R&D.

> CCS charging providers allow Teslas to charge on their networks today.

Because Tesla have chosen to adapt it or at least provide Tesla owners an adaptor for CCS/ChadeMo. Why can't others do the same for the SuperCharger network? Give me a good reason why.

> When will Tesla reciprocate and convert to CCS?

Let me just phone a Tesla VP and ask. /s Are you seriously asking this?

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by jread »

CreepGin wrote: post #359
jread wrote: post #294

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I've been a Tesla owner for 5 years - currently have a P85+ (mine), M3 (wife) and Mercedes GL (family car). Prior to this owned 2 Fords, and 2 Hondas before that. For me personally, I'll take the Tesla any day over any other brand, and my non-techy wife is the same. Hard to explain, but I think it's the overall ownership and driving experience including: - Buying experience is so much more pleasant - set price and no…

> I don't trust autopilot for anything but long road trips (it's excellent for that), it's tried to kill me too many times - I think the marketing hype is way ahead of actual capabilities. What about in heavy traffic situations? Is autopilot practical for that? I tried to get the driver assistant package (adaptive cruise and lane keeping) for my bmw x4 3 years ago. It was being marketed as good for stop & go situatio…

The two scenarios AP is great for us stop and go traffic and long road trips with sparse traffic. It takes the edge off the stress and monotony of those situations. Where it is not good is around town and fast moving but congested traffic - in my experience you have to babysit it a lot in those scenarios.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by cwkoss »

zaroth wrote: post #368
cwkoss wrote: post #178

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Does smart summon have a mechanism to avoid sleeping pets (or children) lying under the wheel base? Is that just the 'operator's responsibility?

Are you literally asking about how the feature performs if there is a child hiding under the car?

Yes. Because if there aren't any undercarriage sensors this will eventually lead to deaths.
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