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> What's the upside of having a giant corporation owning all coworking spaces, versus having many small and independent small businesses running and operating independent coworking spaces? Advantage to customers? Likely minimal. Advantage to the company itself: economies of scale and, likely more importantly, lack of competition allowing them to increase prices. The very clear trend across all sectors is that compani…

The advantage to me with Spaces (which I believe is owned by Regus) is that I can do guest co-working in any city they happen to be present - and since I travel extensively, the bigger the network the better, as far as I'm concerned. Sadly WeWork do not appear to offer this option (or didn't last time I looked).

i think you are looking for wework global access https://www.wework.com/workspace/on-demand/global-access

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I'm so glad I read hacker news. I almost took a job at WeWork just 2 months ago with a recruiter working very hard to convince me I'd be rich when they IPO. Now I'm at a much smaller startup called Weave which is a really phenomenal place to work. I didn't discover until recently that it's also a YCombinator company. edit: to clarify, hacker news has been extremely skeptical of WeWork for some time, due to this, I wa…

Same here, and only by reading the headlines. A WeWork recruiter reached out to me. I laughed out loud and added it to the list of companies I would never work for. Not only do they do nothing interesting, but they are apparently unethical as well. No doubt another failed tech bro pump 'n dump scheme headed to the dustbin of history.

You’re gloating but the pnd already succeeded to the tune of $700+ million.

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What originally led you to believe that an economics degree would result in well-paying jobs?

Seems ironic to me that the study of wealth production, consumption, and transfer wouldn't lead to making money.

If economists actually understood the economy, they wouldn’t be economists, they’d be billionaires.

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I'm sure I'll get downvoted for this, but I actually just signed up to be a (thankfully month-to-month) WeWork customer for a HotDesk today in Phoenix, and it's actually been a pretty great experience: Great space, nice people, reasonable IT, I was up and running and working within 30 minutes of doing my tour. And yes I've had a cup of the famous We Kombucha. This particular location just opened 3 weeks ago and is ap…

> I was up and running and working within 30 minutes of doing my tour.

Have you ever done workshare places before? I put my laptop down and start working. 30 mins seems a long time for that.

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> but I predict WeWork is still going to be around in another decade. There's clearly a ton of demand for what they provide There's also a TON of rent-a-desk places. The big questions are: - What's the benefit to a large corporation doing this instead of lots of small companies? (The economies of scale need to outweigh the large corporate overhead.) - What's WeWork's secret sauce or first mover advantage?

In addition to the advantages others listed, I think a big advantage of a large corporation is risk management. If you're a "small" company managing a handful of buildings, and something catastrophic happens to one of those buildings, that could threaten the company's existence. More so if those handful of buildings are in the same city, and all suffer from the same event (flood, hurricane, earthquake, etc.). A large…

I agree with your general point, but in the specific case of WeWork the benefit has to be tempered to a large degree by the fact that they are losing obscene amounts of money. They are definitely not running as a sustainable business right now and, while they might make it work long term, but I doubt many people will be shocked if WeWork doesn't exist in 5 years.

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WeWork is basically a real estate company. Why would they need a data science engineer?

Real estate is a data play: figuring out which locations are going to be valuable. McDonalds famously does tons of research on locations, so much so that "be mcdonalds-adjacent" is an acceptable strategy. I'm not entirely sure what a data science engineer does, but somewhere between "making it easier for the DS team to find what they need to find" and "figuring out where we should buy/lease next".

From what I heard they were doing some notable data engineering - leveraging 4square data to decide where to put locations based on optimisation algorithms, profiling potential lessees based on known good ones, optimizing workspace layout based on camera and keyfob data, lease price elasticity tests... Lots of interesting domains. Sadly I'm sure this was/is one of the first departments to get downsided post backdown.

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I'm so glad I read hacker news. I almost took a job at WeWork just 2 months ago with a recruiter working very hard to convince me I'd be rich when they IPO. Now I'm at a much smaller startup called Weave which is a really phenomenal place to work. I didn't discover until recently that it's also a YCombinator company. edit: to clarify, hacker news has been extremely skeptical of WeWork for some time, due to this, I wa…

I must say, I am jealous. It seems a bit unfair to me how computer engineers are getting hired and paid so well, while my economics degree is useless and I have to fight like crazy to get a job that pays WAY less than engineers get. Honestly, I studied economics because I wanted a job that pays well - that was one of the key criteria - and now I am standing with little money and a job I hate. It sucks.

I've been very fortunate to grow up in Seattle, one of the fastest growing cities in the US.

My friends have geology and psychology degrees working in technology companies making $130 - $180k/year as non-developers.

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There are a lot of large and small ironies at play, but the one that irks me the most is the interrelation between `investment` in the financial sense and `investment` in the dress sense, for the word has its root in the word `vestment` which means `clothing` ( https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=investment ) I keep asking myself how startup culture has gone so far off the rails in terms of professional business trop…

"but what are imaginary internet points for if not spending on counterculture opinions?"

Hear hear!

Re: WeWork’s Adam Neumann Steps Down as CEO

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Hackernews is skeptical of many things though, sometimes hard to filter through the noise.

I find in tech, being skeptical by default is usually a good thing - perhaps not if you're an entrepreneur, but certainly if you're a developer or engineer.

> perhaps not if you're an entrepreneur

It's an essential thing if you want to be a successful entrepreneur -- as long as you don't confuse skepticism with cynicism. Skepticism and optimism make a powerful combination.

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