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Re: Android 10

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Post by lupinglade »

coryfklein wrote: post #312
unicornporn wrote: post #293

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> a removable battery and OS updates for two years This provokes me. Are we supposed to be happy with two years ? The environmental impact of e-waste and the production of electronics should not be understated. I have a Nexus 5 as a backup phone. It works just as well as my main handset. I know how to duck the G-surveillance and I'm able to keep it alive because I have the knowledge to install roms. Not everyone does…

> Are we supposed to be happy with two years? The environmental impact of e-waste and the production of electronics should not be understated. Can you elaborate on this? Because I'm thinking of the amount of garbage I put in the bin over a period of two whole years, and the size of my phone, its packaging, chargers, cables, and manuals all together is just not even comparable. Even if you add in the environmental cos…

Garbage is garbage.

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Post by sundvor »

driverdan wrote: post #369
thekid314 wrote: post #333

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The lifetime of most electronics is much longer than 2 years. The only thing I need to replace regularly is headphones.

Headphones should last a lifetime. Stop buying garbage and treat them well.

It'll be interesting to see how long Bluetooth headphones will last. You lose one vulnerability (the darned cable) and replace it with another (battery).

Re: Android 10

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Post by derrikcurran »

codedokode wrote: post #276
vladdanilov wrote: post #138

The website assets are optimized in a rather strange way. The total page weight of ~20MB is huge for mobile. The images are heavily compressed using WebP lossy with quite noticeable blockiness and washed out textures and fine details, but squeezed into 1MB, yet the videos are only lightly compressed, and make up most of the page weight. Had they been compressed with libx264 at good quality, the page weight would be m…

The images are awful (at least in Firefox). They are compressed even worse than Google Developer Insight usually recommends. The text in screenshots is barely readable. The dark theme is uncomfortable for my eyes (ok, maybe it's fault of my poor quality TN matrix, but anyway I don't want to see it). I doubt anyone wants to read white text on a black background. The letters are gigantic and are optimized for hi-resolu…

> I doubt anyone wants to read white text on a black background.

I do! Much less eye strain and easier to read for me. In fact, I read your comment in white text on a black background. My eyes are very sensitive to light in general though.

Re: Android 10

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Post by fooqux »

greysonp wrote: post #215
fooqux wrote: post #38

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No, it uses the app's API to do that. However, the push notification from GCM does come from google and is possibly read though.

Signal dev here. Just wanted to make it clear that the GCM/FCM we send are completely empty. It just wakes up the app so we can fetch the encrypted messages, at which point we decrypt them and show them to the user.

Thank you for clarifying. Didn't know you could do that! Then again, I haven't played around with Android developing in a few API versions.

Re: Android 10

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Post by crummy »

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #115
JoshTriplett wrote: post #64

The way they show and demonstrate gestures, along with the UI at the bottom, strongly suggests that they intend to eliminate the semi-"hard" buttons in favor of gestures. That would save space, give people a bit more control over fullscreen apps, and provide a less "modal" UI where the same gestures always work even if the buttons aren't available (such as when playing fullscreen video). Also, "Get security updates f…

9 already implements the swipeable "pill" navigation. It isn't on by default if you upgraded from 8.

I tried the pill and eventually turned it off. Android 10's navigation seems a lot more fluid, though maybe a little less discoverable.

edit: to be clear, I now have the option for traditional 3 buttons, 2 buttons (pill), and no buttons (all gestures).

Re: Android 10

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Post by integrii »

Wait a second. The back button is being replaced with a swipe from the left edge of the screen???

What if my phone is really wide? What if I miss that gesture 40% of the time?

Re: Android 10

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Post by razorunreal »

JohnFen wrote: post #148
JoshTriplett wrote: post #64

The way they show and demonstrate gestures, along with the UI at the bottom, strongly suggests that they intend to eliminate the semi-"hard" buttons in favor of gestures. That would save space, give people a bit more control over fullscreen apps, and provide a less "modal" UI where the same gestures always work even if the buttons aren't available (such as when playing fullscreen video). Also, "Get security updates f…

> strongly suggests that they intend to eliminate the semi-"hard" buttons in favor of gestures. If that happens, that's an OS that is unacceptable to me. It's bad enough that physical buttons were eliminated in favor of the soft buttons. That bothers me to this day, but I learned to live with it. Eliminating even the horrible soft buttons, though, would be a bridge too far in terms of reducing usability.

It's a setting, you can keep the soft buttons if you like.

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Post by beowulfey »

indecisive_user wrote: post #330
staz wrote: post #326

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plenty or rare earth element https://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobi... Also plenty of other elements in your smartphone that you wouldn't find in your normal bin

That article meanders quite a bit, but it didn't convince me that the environmental impact from manufacturing phones is a huge concern, just that the price of some rare earth elements will increase as our current supply runs low, at which point we'll create new mines to increase the supply again. And how much of that impact is mitigated from recycling phones after you upgrade?

As with anything, any bit counts. It may not seem like it makes a huge difference but in general anything that mitigates the culture of consumerism helps prevent waste.

Yes your own immediate impact on global waste is much higher from your kitchen trash than your device purchases. But people buying a new device every year, regardless of what they do with it after, encourages companies to keep producing these products at tremendous rates, which in turn results in far more environmental impacts due to everything that comes with it.

It’s sometimes hard to see the effects beyond the scope of what we see on a day to day basis, but they are absolutely there at the societal level.

Re: Android 10

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Post by alistproducer2 »

jcknight wrote: post #270
alistproducer2 wrote: post #206

I recently bought a Nokia 2.2, which in in the Android One program. Two main reasons: a removable battery and OS updates for two years and security for 3. At this point, there's very little difference between the hardware of flagships and commodity, especially considering the real-world use of smartphones. I mean, is anyone compiling programs on these things or doing anything particularly intensive? Not really. So gi…

I bought a Nokia 3.1 as a lower end test device, which also belongs to the Android One program. The device is so slow to respond to input in every way that it's become the device I use to test our apps absolute worst case performance on. Even knowing it was meant to be a lower end device it routinely gets frustrating to use for even the most simple tasks, such as Chrome tab switching, keyboard response and even just…

The 2.2 specs are better, with exception of RAM which is equivalent. I've never had any performance issues surfing, watching videos, or using apps. I couldn't recommend this phone enough. The review over at ars was good and that's what put it in my radar.
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