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Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by eternalban »

kaveh_h wrote: post #121
eternalban wrote: post #84

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Unless you are not in Iran and this is propaganda. I am not a fan of IRI by any stretch but that post does not pass the smell test. And last I checked -- I have relatives in Iran -- no one is "starving". As for Iran's government not wanting its citizens spilling their daily beans on an Israeli platform, that's pretty sensible. (Would Israel permit its citizens to chat away on platforms from Iran?) How difficult is it…

Your relatives are not entirely honest with you. Of course they might not be starving and people might have enough food, but they are having less access to medicines and other necessities.

I did not comment on medicine. So there is no "starvation".

> "not entirely honest"

You are possibly projecting your own family's character. Kindly refrain from discussing matters regarding which you have zero insight. Tashakor.

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by SiempreViernes »

stickfigure wrote: post #140
h0l0cube wrote: post #119

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> I work for a US company that routinely has to deal with cyber attacks by Iranian professionals, probably government sponsored. It's hard to posit a moral high-ground here, when basically every state is actively seeking to undermine the others' cyber security, including the US. Stuxnet is one of the most formidable state-sponsored cyber security exploits, and that was targeted at Iran, it seems easy justification to…

I don't think Stuxnet forfeits the moral high ground. It was narrowly focused on attacking a specific military project. It's exactly the kind of thing I want the CIA (or whatever) doing, especially if the alternative is sending bombs. State sponsored attempts to hack public network infrastructure fit into a totally different category. These are not the same.

Meh, it merely caused delays in peacetime so its lasting legacy will be the official declaration of world wide cyber war. The actual "victory" over the Iranian, nuclear program starts in 2013, and was embodied by the JCPOA signed in 2015 (entering to force 2016), before the USA decided to violate it in 2018.

As other pointed out, before stuxnet cyberwarfare wasn't as firmly acknowledged as an official arena, so this type of high profile attack on unprotected target is something you get to do once, and the CIA used it to toot its own horn basically.

I expect it was much like the Manhattan project: they spent all that time developing a weapon so when it came time to use it there wasn't much reflection about how to employ it strategically.

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by PunchTornado »

saiya-jin wrote: post #310
PunchTornado wrote: post #301

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we suggest them to overturn their government, start a revolution.

Well that's the most dumb comment I've seen here for some time. you realize that most revolution end up in millions dead, having a new generation of dictators at the helm and little changed for the better, compared to a lot changed for the worse? But yeah its a sure way to give proper fundamentalists a good chance to rule.

so according to you the revolutions in eastern europe shouldn't have happened. yes, in the Romanian revolution a few thousand heros died. but isn't that worth it to have freedom?

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by auiya »

mpoloton wrote: post #353
simonh wrote: post #349

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It depends what you mean by surrender of Iran. Iran is the one with an explicitly stated foreign policy goal of annihilating another state. They are also persistently taking active steps intended to achieve it. That inevitably creates conflict, and in armed conflicts nobody ends up looking good.

What they mean by negotiation is sever limit on Iran missile program. They ask Iran to limit its missile range very considerably. At first you may say missile is not defensive but offensive. But the fact is that Iran has no air force or any other serious military hardware to defend itself. Because simply they wouldn't sell them to Iran. Most Persian gulf countries have military budget per capita orders of magnitude l…

General Wesley Clark ran for POTUS on the Democratic ticket and was opposed to the war in Iraq. He also opposed those calling for war with Iran in 2007. His politics don't square with the neo-conservatives at all. Did you mean to refer to him as an opposition movement leader?

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by Iv »

grrowl wrote: post #185
Iv wrote: post #168

Am I the only one to see this as a positive side effect of sanctions? Now Iranians have a legitimate reason to use TOR: bypassing sanctions. Turns out it allows them to bypass censorship as well and brings more people into the Tor network.

The user experience on Tor is not great at the best of times. I can't imagine trying to do something like `docker pull` or `npm install` over it, let alone technical research.

Having tried to use a censored internet in China, I suspect it beats the alternative.

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by Iv »

daliusd wrote: post #359
entropy_ wrote: post #281

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It's only weak if you have access to a credit card and are able to pay for a VPS or VPN abroad. If you're trying to bypass it using only free(as in beer) tools, it's quite effective as clearly shown by the article.

I was answering to Iv comment that people in Iran will find Tor. That's not the case from my experience while I was traveling in Iran last year. People simply use free VPNs.

The article mentions Tor

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by Iv »

entropy_ wrote: post #281
daliusd wrote: post #172

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I doubt that they use Tor. First Iranian I have talked with after airport security simply shown as VPN app to use that works. I have used SSH tunnel without problems. Censorship is quite weak in Iran and Tor is not necessary.

It's only weak if you have access to a credit card and are able to pay for a VPS or VPN abroad. If you're trying to bypass it using only free(as in beer) tools, it's quite effective as clearly shown by the article.

Plus I have never understood why people assumed it was safe from the government. You are making a credit card transaction with your name on it and associate it with a named account! You never know who is behind a VPN company. If I were a state censor I'd make sure to have several cheap and reliable VPNs accessible to the locals and just make a list of what they are doing with it.

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by [deleted] »

mpoloton wrote: post #332

Definition of terrorism according to Wikipedia: "Terrorism is, in the broadest sense, the use of intentionally indiscriminate violence as a means to create terror among masses of people; or fear to achieve a religious or political aim." How economic sanctions and maximum pressure different from terrorism? Putting a lot of pressure and pain on ordinary people to achieve political goal, which in this case is surrender…

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Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by sumedh »

hrmon wrote: post #356
flyinglizard wrote: post #250

I’m always caught by surprise when I see intelligent, educated people ignore the nature and actions of Iran to justify their adversarial feelings towards the US administration. Iran is on an unprecedented aggressive and violent push towards dominating the Middle East. They are deployed in Syria, building forward bases to threaten Israel, destabilize Lebanon and pushing it closer to another war with Israel by funding…

The cause of all conflicts in Middle East is Israel. Iran in Iraq and Syria? While US was happy with the rise of ISIS (you remember that? if no ask a Parisian) Iran was the one who fought it beside Iraq and Syria governments. Iran supporting Hezbollah? You suggest some other way to resist against Israel's expansionism. Not just Hezbollah, all of the Lebanon is against Israel. Yemen? I think the role of the aggressor…

> The cause of all conflicts in Middle East is Israel.

Can Iranian women be in public without the hijab, Iran should first focus on giving equal rights to half of the population instead of blaming Israel for everything.

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by jussij »

stale2002 wrote: post #306
jussij wrote: post #244

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The problem is the report that Iran is a country funding lots of militant groups comes out of the USA and it's recent actions means it has lost all credibility. Just in recent times we have seen the USA spy on it's own nationals (NSA) and invade a country based on a lies (WMD in Iraq). The USA also has a long history of propping up murderous dictators (MBS just the most recent) and it now has a president who loves be…

I don't have to take the statements of the USA. All I have to do is listen to the claims that Iran makes, about who it funds, the actions it is taking, and planning on taking. The stuff that Iran itself says it wants to do, such as that it wants to wipe Israel from the face of the map, is bad enough.

> All I have to do is listen to the claims that Iran makes, about who it funds, the actions it is taking, and planning on taking.

So what sources are you quoting?

Any link would be good.

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