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Re: Comparing the Same Project in Rust, Haskell, C++, Python, Scala and OCaml

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Post by ncmncm » Wed, Jun 19, 2019, 11:03 AM UTC

madez wrote: post #138

ncmncm wrote: post #46

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In the 90's, the Swedish Ericsson and German Siemens companies participated in a joint (crash) project. Each sent 250 engineers. After six months, they delivered. A friend counted up lines of code written by each engineer, at the end. Fully half the code in the final product was written by one person: N lines by him, N lines by the other 499 people. He was a lead programmer, who issued two-week assignments to other e…

I'd like to read up on this, so I'd be happy if you could provide sources.

Sorry, personal communication.

Re: Comparing the Same Project in Rust, Haskell, C++, Python, Scala and OCaml

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Post by pdimitar » Wed, Jun 19, 2019, 5:33 PM UTC

wokwokwok wrote: post #238

danmaz74 wrote: post #210

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When thinking about extending and refactoring, you also need to keep in mind that static types add a whole layer which is pretty hard to change. There are advantages and disadvantages, having at static types isn't such a silver bullet.

Hm... well that might be true for extending, I'm not sure you've fully thought through that comment. Duck types are great for writing new code, but they're very troublesome for refactoring; automated tools have a much harder time automating that process. Refactoring data structures and implementations in static type systems is bother considerably easier to implement than in dynamic languages, and resultingly, more ro…

To be fair, in languages as terse as OCaml, even the bigger line count isn't a given.

Re: Comparing the Same Project in Rust, Haskell, C++, Python, Scala and OCaml

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Post by objektif » Fri, Jun 21, 2019, 12:37 AM UTC

WalterBright wrote: post #380

mhh__ wrote: post #230

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Not me though! I was aware of that but I meant in comparison to (say) Java or JavaScript etc.

https://www.digitalmars.com/d/archives/digitalmars/D/announc...

Such a good guy creates a language and finds people job postings for that language. Jokes aside didnt know you were behind D. Thanks for your contribution. I will give it a shot.

Re: Comparing the Same Project in Rust, Haskell, C++, Python, Scala and OCaml

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Post by jcora » Sat, Jun 22, 2019, 1:14 PM UTC

shaklee3 wrote: post #360

jcora wrote: post #270

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Yeah it's had everything for years. I'd rather shoot myself than use those features outside of a modern language where they aren't just bolted on along a billion other things.

That's not a useful comment. Would you rather they just kill the language instead of improving it?

Absolutely. Killing it would be the most useful improvement.