A Conspiracy to Kill IE6 • Hacker News Board

Re: A Conspiracy to Kill IE6

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Post by atomicwrites » Sat, May 04, 2019, 1:50 PM UTC

iggldiggl wrote: post #302

terinjokes wrote: post #230

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I'm confused. It prompts me all the time to change my default browser to Edge. Microsoft products ignore the default browser bit and open links in Edge, which them opens pop-ups to change my default browser to Edge. Even the UI for changing the default browser in Settings heavily encourages you to set Edge.

> Microsoft products ignore the default browser bit and open links in Edge Try something like EdgeDeflector ( https://github.com/da2x/EdgeDeflector ) for redirecting those links to your default browser.

Thank you for answering questions I didn't know to ask.

Re: A Conspiracy to Kill IE6

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Post by atomicwrites » Sat, May 04, 2019, 1:52 PM UTC

tatersolid wrote: post #380

dralley wrote: post #272

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This is a lie. Every single time I've tried to switch a Windows 10 installation to default to Firefox, it asks about trying Edge first.

I think I must be missing out due to Enterpise licensing. With Win10 Enterpise I’ve never encountered pop-up nags for Edge when changing the browser. Links are never redirected into Edge even from other MSFT products. This is on like three different Win10 enterprise laptops. I’ll have to ask the help desk guys what they do to our corporate images if anything. To me it looks like plain-vanilla Win10 Enterpise while de…

It also resets all your default apps to the Microsoft apps (edge, photos, music, etc.) on almost every update.

Re: A Conspiracy to Kill IE6

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Post by TeMPOraL » Sat, May 04, 2019, 2:06 PM UTC

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #343

buffalo2391 wrote: post #229

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This isn't exactly accurate, I've had multiple menus telling me to switch to edge from chrome.

Perhaps I'm not remembering it right but doesn't it day something like "you should use a stable modern browser instead! Are you sure you don't want to keep using Edge"??

It's more like "Windows has a modern browser called Edge, you might want to try it out; are you sure you want to change the default?".

Re: A Conspiracy to Kill IE6

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Post by wvenable » Sat, May 04, 2019, 7:22 PM UTC

trgamefn wrote: post #361

int_19h wrote: post #223

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IE was not tied to Windows upgrades, except in a sense that new IE versions would eventually stop supporting old Windows versions (but that's true of all browsers). IE6 was available on Win98+ and NT4+, for example. IE7 and IE8 were XP/2003+. As far as divergence from the standards, again, that was generally not the case when IE6 shipped - if anything, it was at the bleeding edge, and past it in some ways. The real p…

Actually it was tied to Windows upgrades. It available for older versions of Windows but it was developed as part of development of new version of Windows! MS IE 1 was developed for Windows 95 Plus!, MS IE 2 for Windows NT 4.0, MS IE 3 was for Windows 95 OSR2 (essentially new OS, it even included it's own brand-new filesystem!), MS IE 4 was for Windows98 (but was rushed with Windows 95 OSR 2.5), MS IE 5.0 was for Win…

I don't know if it was developed as part of the development of a new version of Windows or, far more likely, it was simply released with each new version of Windows for maximum impact.

IE2 was the first version available for Windows 3.1, Mac OS, etc. Sure it was released at the same time as NT 4.0 but I don't think it was developed with it.

The big exception is IE4.0 which was deeply integrated with the Windows 98 shell (hello Active Desktop).

Re: A Conspiracy to Kill IE6

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Post by joshdance » Tue, May 07, 2019, 1:05 AM UTC

This is amazing.

Re: A Conspiracy to Kill IE6

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Post by chris_wot » Tue, May 07, 2019, 8:27 PM UTC

jamiek88 wrote: post #231

tracker1 wrote: post #176

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I don't even think it's possible to run Flash on a Mac currently.

Easiest via chrome. But it’s been years since I’ve needed it.

No, it's not easy. I have a Flash based app I can't get out of using. Every day. Every day I have to tell Chrome to allow the app to run Flash. When I close the browser and reopen it, I need to tell tell Flash to "always" use Flash.

Chrome's definition of "always" is very different to everyone else's. And that's on purpose. But I have no say in what corporate app I can use, and I have no way of getting it migrated quickly. The Chrome devs seem actively hostile to the poor slob who must us the corporate app and have no way of migrating away from it.