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Tesla meets self-imposed deadline for Model 3, rolls out 5000 cars in a week

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Gotta give him credit for trying.

I kind of deduct points for arrogantly assuming he knows anything about manufacturing cars at scale to teach a company that produces roughly 9 million vehicles a year. The people that work for Toyota and GM aren't stupid, and those organizations have been at this game since before Elon was born.

Yet Toyota is pursuing hydrogen fool cells, GM scrapped their first EV and released the Bolt to great fanfare only to have it limited to compliance quantities.

Ford is withdrawing from the sedan market.

All US manufacturers with their decades of experience were almost destroyed by Asian manufacturers in terms of cost and build quality.

GM went bankrupt at least once in recent history.

The game has changed many times. It will keep changing, and in five years we will see that anyone not mass producing EVs as real products and not mere compliance vehicles is exiting the automotive industry.

Re: Tesla meets self-imposed deadline for Model 3, rolls out 5000 cars in a week

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Those in the know said electric cars in general were an unpractical waste of money. I also remember three years ago hearing those in the know saying a self landing rocket would not be possible, and if it ever were made it would also be done at great cost and waste. Heck, those in the know said even a couple of months ago that Tesla would not be able to achieve 5000 Model 3s by today. The truth is, there aren't really…

Well as a first point, I think that there's a huge difference between 'This very difficult thing is probably so difficult that X' and 'I have physically seen this production line, and there's no way it's doing X'. The first is an estimation of difficulty - probably an educated guess that could be wrong. The second is a statement based on the evidence in front of you. Secondly, whilst it's true that people have been s…

"The value of Tesla is not the actual production of cars. It's the IP of their self-driving technology, and the IP for their fully automated production line. " I highly doubt that but if you have any link/proof pls share. Their value is in providing a product people are head over heels about. And their valuation is much like any other company, based on guestimates of success.

Re: Tesla meets self-imposed deadline for Model 3, rolls out 5000 cars in a week

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> most people don't care about EV right now > Americans are buying SUVs and crossovers right now Tesla is building SUV EVs. Other makers are planning to.

They currently build a luxury SUV, yes. Tell me when they make one people can actually afford.

In a few years.

An "SUV" is a luxury good anyway and many of them are absurdly priced (imagine what that'd get you in a real car!).

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Please. GM has nowhere near the EV manufacturing capacity of Tesla. They also have a dealer network that is not interested in pushing EVs over internal combustion vehicles.

And yet GM has an available EV car and Tesla does not. And yet Tesla will not be able to deliver the cheap model 3 and GM has been doing it. That's a substantial claim - without any evidence. No surprise though - it's easy to be pulled into the Musk hype.

What? Tesla is pumping out electric cars in lots and are only expanding production with the Model 3.

The Bolt has been selling at between 1.5 and 1k per month while the production of the supply-limited model 3 is approaching 5k per week.

I guess I'm crazy and got pulled into the Musk hype.

> Tesla will not be able to deliver the cheap model 3 and GM has been doing it.

I'm guessing they will. Right now though, you have a point there, the model 3 is more expensive than the Bolt.

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