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Dell XPS 13 Review from a lifelong Mac user

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Re: Dell XPS 13 Review from a lifelong Mac user

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Post by GordonS »

mdaniel wrote: post #378
filleduchaos wrote: post #105

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> and forgot about having a few docker containers running on the background which was an issue with my MacBook Pro 15 (8GB, 2.5Gh) It's almost as if Docker has to start and run in a VM on non-Linux systems. > however, they still do not have 16GB 13' mac which is a deal breaker. What are you talking about? You've been able to upgrade the memory in a 13 inch MBP to 16GB on purchase since like 2015 at least > Touchscree…

> It's almost as if Docker has to start and run in a VM on non-Linux systems. Just as an FYI, that's no longer true for both macOS (xhyve) and Windows (unknown underlying tech, but compiling and running dockerd behaved reasonably with the exception that one could only run Windows docker images). In fact, IIRC, even Docker for Mac uses xhyve, so only docker-machine folks use the VM-based solution

Realistically, it is still true on Windows - unless your containers don't need chmod, chown or any of the other rather fundamental syscalls that are still not supported under LCOW

Re: Dell XPS 13 Review from a lifelong Mac user

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Post by icedchai »

dingo_bat wrote: post #380
icedchai wrote: post #377

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Yes, but you originally said there was no reason for a control key to exist. The modifiers serve two different purposes: control+something is sent to the remote host, cmd+something is handled by the application.

So if I run a long running grep and terminate it using Ctrl+c, which remote host am I sending the command to?

It would be sent to whatever process is attached to the current pseudo terminal. (When I said "remote" I was more referring to the SSH scenario, but the mechanism is the same...)

Re: Dell XPS 13 Review from a lifelong Mac user

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Post by crispinb »

Certhas wrote: post #251
eksemplar wrote: post #206

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This is the perfect description of why I’ll probably never leave Mac land. I want my technology to work out the box, and Mac does that. Sure I could probably setup the Linux trackpad to be Mac like if I threw plenty of hours at it, but I don’t want to waste my time like that, not anymore. I did in my youth, but now I’ll just buy the thing that works.

The thing is though, it's just not true (anymore) that Mac "just works" all that much better. I use Linux and Mac daily and I probably spend a comparable amount of time on configuring both. You just don't feel the pain that you're used to.

My experience is totally different to yours. Every time I install any desktop linux, I spend hours looking up how to get all kinds of little things working. Macs have their problems (not least of which the crappy hardware which is driving so many developers, including me, away). But difficulty of setup & configuration is not one of them for most people.

Re: Dell XPS 13 Review from a lifelong Mac user

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Post by sigi45 »

JadeNB wrote: post #376
sigi45 wrote: post #18

You don't use the trackpad on a lenovo. You don't have to! Srsly while i do own now a macbook pro at work and really like the touchpad, i'm a touch quicker with the red knob in combination with AwesomeWM as a window manager. Main advantage: my hands rests on the device and don't have to move below.

> i'm a touch quicker with the red knob I would expect a longtime Lenovo user to know that "the red knob" is not the official unofficial name for that object. :-)

:-( What is it? I do have a german name in mind (knubbel) but i don't know how others call it?

Re: Dell XPS 13 Review from a lifelong Mac user

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Post by dingo_bat »

icedchai wrote: post #382
dingo_bat wrote: post #380

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So if I run a long running grep and terminate it using Ctrl+c, which remote host am I sending the command to?

It would be sent to whatever process is attached to the current pseudo terminal. (When I said "remote" I was more referring to the SSH scenario, but the mechanism is the same...)

Ok, so that means the remote vs local logic doesn't apply. In fact none does. The demarcations are arbitrary. Cmd is randomly used and ctrl is randomly used. Even if there is a remote vs local rule, why not make ctrl do something for local programs? Do you use a separate keyboard for your ssh and another one for email? No. The keys switch contexts according to the active program.

Re: Dell XPS 13 Review from a lifelong Mac user

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Post by JadeNB »

sigi45 wrote: post #384
JadeNB wrote: post #376

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> i'm a touch quicker with the red knob I would expect a longtime Lenovo user to know that "the red knob" is not the official unofficial name for that object. :-)

:-( What is it? I do have a german name in mind (knubbel) but i don't know how others call it?

> What is it? I do have a german name in mind (knubbel) but i don't know how others call it?

Sorry, I was just making a crass joke. The name I had in mind is rather anatomical: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pointing_stick#Informal_names .

Re: Dell XPS 13 Review from a lifelong Mac user

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Post by Fnoord »

abrookins wrote: post #258
gecko wrote: post #248

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Actually, it was as recently as this very week! Running with all the latest updates on a new Surface Book 2, I ran into a variation of this open issue: https://github.com/Microsoft/WSL/issues/1982. Well that stinks. I'd swear I hit this and it got resolved with the inotify-related patches, but clearly I misremembered. Might be thinking of uwsgi or something. Re. Hyper-V: yeah, I do a Samba mount. This in my experienc…

That's okay -- I'm sure they fixed something like that issue! The WSL team has been crazy busy, and their work so far is super impressive. VirtualBox shared folders had their own problems. `npm` wants to create symlinks for commands provided by packages, but VirtualBox doesn't support symlinks by default on Windows shares. So you have to execute an arcane command to enable that feature -- every time you restart the c…

It is possible to create directory symlinks in Windows. It is called junctions [1]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTFS_junction_point

Re: Dell XPS 13 Review from a lifelong Mac user

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Post by karlmdavis »

karlmdavis wrote: post #245
eksemplar wrote: post #206

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This is the perfect description of why I’ll probably never leave Mac land. I want my technology to work out the box, and Mac does that. Sure I could probably setup the Linux trackpad to be Mac like if I threw plenty of hours at it, but I don’t want to waste my time like that, not anymore. I did in my youth, but now I’ll just buy the thing that works.

> I want my technology to work out the box, and Mac does that. Same here, but with a twist: out of the box, Linux makes it easier for me to install the things I need to do my job. The display, power management, etc. issues are all frustrating, true, but ultimately not as important. Different folks have different priorities.

I'm a software developer so for me: dev tools, basic shell utilities, PostgreSQL, Docker, etc.

Re: Dell XPS 13 Review from a lifelong Mac user

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Post by [deleted] »

dingo_bat wrote: post #374
icedchai wrote: post #370

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You asked about the control key. Have you ever used "control-c" or "control-d" from a Unix command line?

Yeah. Of course. And that's what I was referring to. There is no reason for a separate cmd key to exist. Some stuff is switched to cmd (copy, paste, select all) and other stuff stays with ctrl (ctrl+c, ctrl+d). See now I can't even remember how to close a tab in chrome. Is that cmd+w or ctrl+w? All of this is really arbitrary.

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Re: Dell XPS 13 Review from a lifelong Mac user

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Post by bcheung »

dingo_bat wrote: post #327
bcheung wrote: post #325

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I have both Mac and Windows 10 running simultaneously in my office at home and I keep getting Ctrl-W and Cmd-W confused when I try to close a browser tab. Maybe I'll get used to it eventually. I hope so.

Why does Mac os even have Ctrl? Why not do everything with Cmd? The Ctrl key is really unused on Mac.

Unix programs use it quite frequently. Photoshop requires multiple modifier keys, you can't get away with just a single modifier because there are too many keyboard shortcuts.
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