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Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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Post by MrBMT »

manicdee wrote: post #334
shinratdr wrote: post #99

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I agree they are burying the hell out of it, but as it stands licenses for 1Password 7 (which is still in beta on Mac & Windows) can only be purchased from within the client, as they want to test the order flow which was rebuilt in this version. The Windows version of 1Password 7 still can’t be licensed, they haven’t built that part yet. The Mac version however can be purchased, and if you plan on sticking with it I…

Does this version support WiFi Sync with 1Password on iOS?

1Password 7 for Mac continues to support WiFi Sync with 1Password for iOS.

Unfortunately however, 1Password 7 for Windows does not offer the WiFi Sync. There's more on that here: https://discussions.agilebits.com/discussion/87524/on-wlan-s...

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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Post by efdee »

jonknee wrote: post #214
DavideNL wrote: post #211

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You are making the same mistake with these arguments as many people make; nobody is complaining about paying for software. People are complaining about subscriptions , because for example you easily loose track of what exactly it is your paying for. Paying for an upgrade clearly shows you that you're paying some amount for some list of new features. You can then choose whether or not it's worth paying for. (just to n…

> For customers there are 0 benefits to a subscription model. For companies of course there are many. OP described in detail the benefit for customers--constantly updated software. Critical for something as security conscience as a password manager.

To be honest, if a password manager needs to be regularly updated in order to remain safe, I'm not sure I trust it with my passwords.

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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Post by serbrech »

I've been staying on v4.x to keep the sync to dropbox. I don't want to used their hosted service. I don't want my master password to transit over the internet and its hash to be stored in a db, no matter how secure they are. Centralizing this makes it a target of attack. There is no way a hacker will try to get my credential unless he targets me personally, and there is little to no reason for this to happen. It does exactly what I need it to do. I don't need all the fancy other additional features. :(

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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Post by vsl »

dingaling wrote: post #288
cdumler wrote: post #123

So, I'll join the chorus here by saying that I've picked up the subscription fee. I've been using their software daily for over three years. During that time, they have consistently improved their product and have been open about issues (as far as I am concerned). I was a little irked when I saw the subscription model. I was like, "hey, I paid for this." So, I looked up how much I paid in licenses by looking them up.…

Well this one tool is 'only' $60 per year[0]. But what if your compiler moved to subscription, and your text editor and your e-mail client and ... It's the thousand-cuts problem. And once you start on that path you can't go back, or else the tool stops working. [0] which is a substantial chunk of a day's after-tax pay for many people in the UK, for example. 1/400th of their salary for a password database.

My compiler (MSVC) is subscription. My go-to editor for other stuff (PyCharm and other JetBrains editors) is a subscription. My email client isn't, but my email hosting (FastMail), which has a web client, is.

It doesn't even register -- they are tools I need for my work and I'm happy to pay yearly for them. It's worth nothing that with the exception of email (which, being on my own domain, I can always move elsewhere), I still keep usable licenses if I stop subscribing, I am not locked-in.

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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Post by MrBMT »

maxgee wrote: post #335
bdcravens wrote: post #55

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This. You can still use it with local vaults or sync with something like Dropbox.

Not on windows.

1Password 7 re-adds local vault support to Windows for standalone license users at the very least. Not sure about subscription users... as there seems to be conflicting information about this.

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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Post by lancewiggs »

Sending any information to Agilebits besides payment requires a whole lot more trust - and stuffing over customers was not the way to earn it. So no - I don’t trust them anymore.

I’ve reccomended 1password to hundreds of people, so it’s sad to see the decline. I would and did accept a simple annual new paid version - but the upgrades seemed to to remove/hide the basics like Dropbox sync or one location for passwords.

So now there is a gap in the market for a paid easy to install and sync password manager that makes it trivial to store data locally. Surely they are a lot easier to create now?

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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Post by tempay »

brightball wrote: post #329
_b8r0 wrote: post #305

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Crippling it, not so much. I moved away from 1password at the time of the subscription palaver. I managed to move everything to Keepass but each entry has it's own folder. I don't blame 1Password for the state of my Keepass db (although they pretty much forced my hand) but the closed nature of 1Password does bite you in the arse when you decide to leave.

I switched from 1Password to LastPass last year and it was a smooth transition. If they’d had a Linux version I’d still be a customer right now.

They now have a chrome extension that supports Linux[1] and a command line app.[2]

[1] https://support.1password.com/getting-started-1password-x/

[2] https://support.1password.com/command-line-getting-started/

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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Post by NLips »

roustem wrote: post #255
DavideNL wrote: post #207

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I wonder if it's so much better than for example Bitwarden for families, which is $1/month. ( https://bitwarden.com ) Also, the switch to the "1password cloud", instead of the already freely available iCloud/Google Cloud/Dropbox etc, just seems like a move to make people believe their expensive subscription are justified. There was absolutely no demand for a "1password cloud". This entire push to subscription-hell ma…

If you look at 1Password features, a lot of them are simply not feasible to implement without having a server-side component. Most of them revolve around sharing, permissions, automatic backups, account recovery, 2FA, etc. Vault sharing is simply impossible with iCloud. Sharing with Dropbox requires manual set up of shared folders.

If you don't have a server-side component, you already have 2FA - your password and your non-syncing device.

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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Post by chrisweekly »

efdee wrote: post #382
jonknee wrote: post #214

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> For customers there are 0 benefits to a subscription model. For companies of course there are many. OP described in detail the benefit for customers--constantly updated software. Critical for something as security conscience as a password manager.

To be honest, if a password manager needs to be regularly updated in order to remain safe, I'm not sure I trust it with my passwords.

> "To be honest, if a password manager needs to be regularly updated in order to remain safe, I'm not sure I trust it with my passwords."

Huh. For my part, I'd have trouble trusting a password manager (or browser, or OS) that claimed it _didn't_ need regular updates in order to remain secure.

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