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Uber Paid Hackers to Delete Stolen Data on 57M People

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Re: Uber Paid Hackers to Delete Stolen Data on 57M People

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Post by forapurpose »

brightball wrote: post #332
chakalakasp wrote: post #170

Man, I don't know if Uber is evil or if most tech companies are evil and Uber just doesn't drop the kind of money on PR strategery that an evil company need to drop in order to seem normal. But either way, holy cow does that company come off as toxic. They've completely revolutionized the drive-for-hire industry and all anyone ever hears about it what a D-bag their CEO is or how toxic and mysogonist their work enviro…

I never quite know how to think about them. On the one hand, they’d changed an entire industry in a way that people wanted but was getting serious resistance from the entrenched players. They had to break a lot of rules and go around a lot of people with a whole lot of connections to get where they are and in the process made a lot of enemies. I expect blowback. I expect negative news. They essentially pulled it off…

Plenty of companies have disrupted plenty of industries by now, but without this kind of behavior. I don't see how the way they dealt with the data breach was required to disrupt the local ground transportation industry, nor was the way they've treated employees (including drivers) and customers.

Re: Uber Paid Hackers to Delete Stolen Data on 57M People

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Post by zouhair »

chakalakasp wrote: post #170

Man, I don't know if Uber is evil or if most tech companies are evil and Uber just doesn't drop the kind of money on PR strategery that an evil company need to drop in order to seem normal. But either way, holy cow does that company come off as toxic. They've completely revolutionized the drive-for-hire industry and all anyone ever hears about it what a D-bag their CEO is or how toxic and mysogonist their work enviro…

As much as I hate blaming the victim, but giving your personal info just to get a Taxi ride is utterly moronic. I don't want to have any relation of any sorts with a Taxi, I ride I pay and bye.

Having to register for that is quite surreal.

Re: Uber Paid Hackers to Delete Stolen Data on 57M People

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Post by clhodapp »

knowThySelfx wrote: post #376
Barrin92 wrote: post #354

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the daily reminder that freedom of speech does not imply that anybody has to like what you have to say

That is exactly my point ;) The irony is lost. User starik36's comment was in a downvoted state. Which is what prompted me to write that comment. I didn't think what he said deemed a down vote because from general observation what he stated seems true.

There isn't any irony. Freedom of speech is about preventing government censorship of citizens and has absolutely nothing to do with shielding people from the social consequences of saying unpopular things. It's about being legally allowed to say unpopular things, not about stopping people from disliking what you say.

Re: Uber Paid Hackers to Delete Stolen Data on 57M People

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Post by Justin_K »

krelian wrote: post #277
chakalakasp wrote: post #170

Man, I don't know if Uber is evil or if most tech companies are evil and Uber just doesn't drop the kind of money on PR strategery that an evil company need to drop in order to seem normal. But either way, holy cow does that company come off as toxic. They've completely revolutionized the drive-for-hire industry and all anyone ever hears about it what a D-bag their CEO is or how toxic and mysogonist their work enviro…

Uber is like the Donald Trump of corporations. It sets new ground in how openly vile you can be without any consequences. Just like Donald Trump the real danger is not in Uber itself but in whatever it will be that uses it as a role model.

No substance post, seeking the political low hanging fruit. Looks like the new crowd here loves it, giving you plenty of up votes.

Re: Uber Paid Hackers to Delete Stolen Data on 57M People

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Post by _m8fo »

d3ad1ysp0rk wrote: post #324
_m8fo wrote: post #234

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with you in general, but unfortunately things are never that simple. Most companies do good too, otherwise they wouldn't exist.

"things are never that simple" says the guy who is implying that you shouldn't think about whether a company is moral/not if you live in a country that does horrible things?

Heh, yeah I'll admit the original post and the subsequent responses were pretty dumb. Can't change the past (no really, I couldn't edit it even if I wanted).

Re: Uber Paid Hackers to Delete Stolen Data on 57M People

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Post by _m8fo »

kelnos wrote: post #155
_m8fo wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My overall point is that people don't actually care. It's just virtue signaling. If people cared they'd have consistency in their actions. For example, you probably are very consistent in the fact that you probably will never cause physical harm to someone. Consistency isn't impossible at all. People are already very consistent in doing what simply is convenient for them. In the case of Uber vs. Lyft, if you live in…

> My overall point is that people don't actually care. It's just virtue signaling. That's just, like, your opinion, man. I care up to certain thresholds. Last year my Uber use was probably 90%, Lyft 10%. Now that's flipped. I only use Uber if I'm outside the US and there's no comparable local alternative. Uber is demonstrably making less money than it used to because I do this, and Lyft is making more. I'm personally…

Hey, just wanted to let you know (not that you care), that you're 100% right. My original post, and subsequent responses were based on a false equivalency.

Dunno what I was thinking, I was totally in the wrong. Apologies if any offense was taken.

Re: Uber Paid Hackers to Delete Stolen Data on 57M People

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Post by pimmen »

chakalakasp wrote: post #170

Man, I don't know if Uber is evil or if most tech companies are evil and Uber just doesn't drop the kind of money on PR strategery that an evil company need to drop in order to seem normal. But either way, holy cow does that company come off as toxic. They've completely revolutionized the drive-for-hire industry and all anyone ever hears about it what a D-bag their CEO is or how toxic and mysogonist their work enviro…

And testing their self driving cars without getting the proper permits. And hiding shit like this from investors so they’ll lose a lot of money later.

I would never work as an engineer for a company like that. How can I trust that it will honor any deal I make and not screw me? I have to think about that with every company but this one in particular can’t even spell ”integrity”.

Re: Uber Paid Hackers to Delete Stolen Data on 57M People

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Post by plandis »

Justin_K wrote: post #384
krelian wrote: post #277

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Uber is like the Donald Trump of corporations. It sets new ground in how openly vile you can be without any consequences. Just like Donald Trump the real danger is not in Uber itself but in whatever it will be that uses it as a role model.

No substance post, seeking the political low hanging fruit. Looks like the new crowd here loves it, giving you plenty of up votes.

What part exactly do you disagree with?

Re: Uber Paid Hackers to Delete Stolen Data on 57M People

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Post by angersock »

Justin_K wrote: post #384
krelian wrote: post #277

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Uber is like the Donald Trump of corporations. It sets new ground in how openly vile you can be without any consequences. Just like Donald Trump the real danger is not in Uber itself but in whatever it will be that uses it as a role model.

No substance post, seeking the political low hanging fruit. Looks like the new crowd here loves it, giving you plenty of up votes.

The post is correct though in its analogy.

Re: Uber Paid Hackers to Delete Stolen Data on 57M People

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Post by halflings »

the_cat_kittles wrote: post #130
halflings wrote: post #125

They stored AWS storage credentials in clear, in a (private) Github repo... This is so baffling coming from one of the largest tech companies in the world. Among other things, this shows that they do not have proper access policies to user data (e.g anybody working at Uber can get access to any user's data), which in my opinion is a larger issue than this individual hacking case.

as the size of the company grows past a certain size, especially these "move fast and break things" idiots, i feel like the likelihood of this goes up. there are more and more people, someone is bound to do something stupid.

The fact that this is a big company is exactly why strict access policies are necessary! I might trust a handful of administrators, or a limited set of engineers whose data access is audited, but I sure as hell would not trust thousands of engineers with my private data.

Other tech companies (e.g Google) safely silo PII data, and any access has to be audited.

I cannot wait before GDPR is implemented in Europe... at least companies will be seriously fined if they want to cut corners on privacy and data protection.

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