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Re: MacOS High Sierra

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Post by duskwuff »

SolarUpNote wrote: post #286
cjsuk wrote: post #2

Does anyone know of any issues with this before I press the button?

You won't be able to connect to a shared drive using AFP anymore, if you get the new file system APFS when you upgrade. Apparently you only get APFS if you have a pure SSD drive (not Fusion). https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT208018 APFS and file sharing - Volumes formatted as APFS can't offer share points over the network using AFP. - APFS supports SMB and NFS, with the option to enforce only SMB-encrypted share poi…

> You won't be able to connect to a shared drive using AFP anymore, if you get the new file system APFS when you upgrade

Not quite. You can't share your drive over AFP if you've formatted it as APFS. Connecting to a remote AFP share is unchanged.

Re: MacOS High Sierra

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Post by hungerstrike »

dep_b wrote: post #379
hungerstrike wrote: post #353

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This is the most petty complaint about Windows that I've heard because every consumer-oriented OS has these type of "advertisements". Heck, on iOS not only am I forced to look at apps that I don't want, I am also forced to use them ! On the Macintosh OS, whenever I want to see what updates are available, I have to first look at the featured apps in their store. Even Ubuntu installs a shit-load of crappy programs that…

A part is removable, the rest you can hide. The ones you cannot remove are usually the ones the iOS SDK's are built on top of like Map Views or Web Views.

Try clicking a hyperlink from Messages. You’re forced to use Safari. Try clicking an address in your contacts. You’re forced to use Apple Maps. Try replacing either one of them. You cannot.

Re: MacOS High Sierra

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Post by tomaskafka »

pantulis wrote: post #11

What about performance on older machines? My mid-2010 MBP is still supported, but I'm afraid of switching if performance takes a hit. It has dual 512GB SSDs and 8GB RAM, so it runs Sierra with more or less success, but it's usable. With all this filesystem level changes, does High Sierra have more hardware requirements than Sierra?

Installed on a 2012 non-retina 13” mbp, everyhing feels faster (probably no benchmark gains, but much less UI latency, faster app switching etc.). Thankful, I don’t need anyhing more from the update :).

Re: MacOS High Sierra

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Post by merb »

gjjrfcbugxbhf wrote: post #330
fish_fan wrote: post #289

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Libre office and google docs more than do it for everyone I know.

Unfortunately they don't (and probably can't) do it for everyone. What is needed is bug level compatibility with msoffice (including visual basic) and seemless interoperability (including add ons). Not only is this an insanely difficult target - it is also a moving and potentially hostile one to interoperate with. I've massive respect for the libreoffice developers but I don't envy them the task of msoffice interoper…

Office 2003 and Office 2007 upwards don't have bug level compat. it's even worse if you used special things in your .doc files the chances are/were high to render them different between the older and the newer versions. basically nobody cared as soon as a lot of people moved to ooxml.

Also Office 2003 and LibreOffice4/5 have way more in common than Office 2003 has with 2010/2013/2016.

Re: MacOS High Sierra

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Post by vijaybritto »

raesene6 wrote: post #126
tomp wrote: post #103

> Safari now uses machine learning to identify advertisers and others who track your online behavior, and removes the cross‑site tracking data they leave behind. > Safari now uses machine learning to identify advertisers and others who track your online behavior, and removes the cross‑site tracking data they leave behind I'm starting to like the business model of buying the product more and more. There was a recent t…

I agree, the good thing about Apple and Microsoft is I know what they want to sell me. Apple want me to buy relatively expensive devices on a regular basis and ideally a cloud subscription. Microsoft want me to buy subscriptions to their cloud services and ideally devices running their OS. In both cases the value for them is fairly clear and they have limited incentives to do anything that might jepordise those reven…

"Personally I prefer to pay someone for a product/service directly." This wont work in our part of the world where access to tech is more important than ethics to a lot of people.

Re: MacOS High Sierra

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Post by snowwindwaves »

4ad wrote: post #205
lloeki wrote: post #195

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> When shared, photos taken with standard point-and-shoot cameras, SLR cameras, or iOS devices have up to 2048 pixels on the long edge. Wow, what a deal breaker. I always felt like something was off quality-wise but never took the time to delve into that.

Yeah, and it doesn't make any sense as they already have the pictures in the original quality stored on their servers already. I think (but I am not sure) you can use iCloud Photo sharing even if you don't use iCloud Photo library, but that's a special case. Then you could limit the quality of those photos, I guess. But why degrade the quality of photos that you already have? Sharing doesn't use any extra space than…

I live in Canada and am born in the early 80s. 1 in 20 of my friends has a phone that isn't an iPhone, we often use iCloud photo sharing for albums but I don't know anyone who is using iCloud Photo Library, so not a special case in my circle

Re: MacOS High Sierra

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Post by makecheck »

tomp wrote: post #103

> Safari now uses machine learning to identify advertisers and others who track your online behavior, and removes the cross‑site tracking data they leave behind. > Safari now uses machine learning to identify advertisers and others who track your online behavior, and removes the cross‑site tracking data they leave behind I'm starting to like the business model of buying the product more and more. There was a recent t…

It’s kind of crazy just how many resources of humankind must be expended to make up for obnoxious behaviors, whether it is burning cycles on ad-blockers or cleaning up other peoples’ garbage.

For all the power we have expended, humankind could be so much further along than we are.

I wish the people who spent energy making terrible ad experiences would just quit their jobs and apply their talents to something of actual value.

Re: MacOS High Sierra

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Post by stiGGG »

abledon wrote: post #321
Cthulhu_ wrote: post #168

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UI wise it should make more efficient use of your MBP's GPU, thanks to Metal 2, but on the other hand that efficiency may be negated again by more visual effects. Things like blur (which cost performance) can be disabled in accessibility settings though.

Not for 2010 models: https://www.apple.com/macos/how-to-upgrade/#hardware-require... ___> ' Metal 2 Supported by the following Mac models: MacBook (Early 2015 or newer) MacBook Pro (Mid 2012 or newer) MacBook Air (Mid 2012 or newer) Mac mini (Late 2012 or newer) iMac (Late 2012 or newer) Mac Pro (Late 2013) '

So my good old quad core i7 Mac mini is still cutting-edge, nice!

Re: MacOS High Sierra

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Post by dnautics »

makecheck wrote: post #387
tomp wrote: post #103

> Safari now uses machine learning to identify advertisers and others who track your online behavior, and removes the cross‑site tracking data they leave behind. > Safari now uses machine learning to identify advertisers and others who track your online behavior, and removes the cross‑site tracking data they leave behind I'm starting to like the business model of buying the product more and more. There was a recent t…

It’s kind of crazy just how many resources of humankind must be expended to make up for obnoxious behaviors, whether it is burning cycles on ad-blockers or cleaning up other peoples’ garbage. For all the power we have expended, humankind could be so much further along than we are. I wish the people who spent energy making terrible ad experiences would just quit their jobs and apply their talents to something of actua…

What is 'actual' value and who gets to decide?
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