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Re: Android Oreo

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> Wi-Fi Assistant: Auto-connects you to high quality open WiFi and secures your connection with a VPN back to Google

VPN back to Google?

Re: Android Oreo

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The way this is implemented is that the system will kill any background services your app has after a grace period, just like iOS. In order to have a background service that "good reason" equates to a persistent notification in the tray and icon in the status bar--which nobody agrees is a good product experience.

Why is that not a good experience? Now I need to dig through Settings to find all these background services. If they're important enough to be running constantly they're important enough to take up some space to prominently show me that they're running.

Yes, and you're okay with having 20 to 30 notifications at all times just to run open source apps, or would you say "this is too annoying, I'll switch back to the closed ones that spy on me".

If you want the open source products to win, they need to be able to provide the same usability as the proprietary solution. This is not possible here - you need Google's FCM or you get major disadvantages, and this is problematic.

I've filed a complaint with the EU, this seems like the only option I've got left. I can't tell everyone running a bouncer to register with Google, I can't relay all messages of all IRC users through a server of mine, and I can't bake in a Google API key into IRC bouncers (as that violates Google's ToS)

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Uh? I replaced my S3 by a S7 and the hardware changes are huge: better CPU obviously but also much better screen (the S3 was unreadable during sunny days..)

Can you replace the battery with an extended one? That's a deal-breaker for me, and battery cases are not a good replacement since I can't rely on the phone's own battery indicator, have to manually turn on/off and looking at ZeroLemon's case for the S7, it seems to require a headphone extender. As for the S3's screen I have no complaints. It's readable in the sun with max brightness, I keep it at minimum the rest of…

I'm using an S7 edge and it's on the default 1080p resolution. It's not blurry at all. The difference in quality between this screen and the screen on S3 is very noticeable. The non removable battery is the only downgrade I see. Everything else is a huge leap forward. Even battery life is much much better. You likely would not need an external battery.

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Mobile OS's aren't just for grumpy old people.

I'm younger than emojis themselves, to be perfectly honest, but I hardly think that an (incorrect) ad hominem makes my point any less valid.

Emojis have no relevance to how technical someone is

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The most interesting part is the way they are planning on tackling fragmentation in O onwards with Project Treble [0] If your device ships with O it should be running an immutable semantically versioned HAL. In essence you should be able to be able to flash AOSP on every new device. No matter what the vendor does. Edit: I can see it now, in the technical specs of each device you will see a list of HAL Versions. The n…

Android have been promising to finally tackle fragmentation in every release since KitKat. It seems people have a very short memory.

Re: Android Oreo

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The most interesting part is the way they are planning on tackling fragmentation in O onwards with Project Treble [0] If your device ships with O it should be running an immutable semantically versioned HAL. In essence you should be able to be able to flash AOSP on every new device. No matter what the vendor does. Edit: I can see it now, in the technical specs of each device you will see a list of HAL Versions. The n…

Android have been promising to finally tackle fragmentation in every release since KitKat. It seems people have a very short memory.

While I agree with the skepticism because, frankly, Google can not be trusted to deliver on most product promises they make...

... they have gotten better at this.

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I'm younger than emojis themselves, to be perfectly honest, but I hardly think that an (incorrect) ad hominem makes my point any less valid.

Emojis have no relevance to how technical someone is

Exactly, they have appeal to people independent of technical skill; hence my hypothesis that they make sure to emphasize the things that are more likely to resonate with larger groups of people (like emoji) rather than things like Project Treble or a "native C/C++ API for high-performance audio", even if the former really have little to due with the OS itself.

If we're going down that route, it's also worth noting that "old people" such as GP referred to also can like emoji; my parents and grandparents enjoy using emoji.

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Except, of course, getting your hands on a phone that has Oreo. For instance, the Galaxy S8 is the hottest new thing on the market right now, and it launched with Nougat. It will probably be six months to a year before Samsung pushes an Oreo update to it, if at all.

Samsung actually has a decent track record of updating their software -- my family's Galaxy S5s on T-Mobile (purchased 2014) are actually still receiving security updates, despite being on Marshmallow API level.

You kidding me right?

They literally didn't update note tablets once!

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> I've heard horror stories of months-long approvals processes on Verizon and AT&T ROMs. Six months and counting, waiting for Verizon to approve the Nougat update on my HTC One M9. It has literally hit everyone else: [0] http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/12/09/unlocked-htc-one-m9-... [1] http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/02/23/android-7-0-nougat-o... [2] http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/03/21/t-mobile-variant-htc...…

Verizon is the Comcast of wireless. The next omen of the apocalypse will be when the Trump administration approves their merger.

Good thing their lawyer literally runs the FCC. They also have the best coverage, also like Comcast. Unlike Comcast, however, you don't have to get Verizon depending on where you live.
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