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Microsoft Paint to be killed off after 32 years

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Re: Microsoft Paint to be killed off after 32 years

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Post by mercer »

krylon wrote: post #170
mercer wrote: post #49

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Is there a Preview.app equivalent for Windows these days? It was one of my favorite new tools when I switched to Mac back in the day, because for windows I had to download special 'see all types of files + basic editing' programs.

For simply displaying PDF (and a few other formats), I like SumatraPDF. It is pretty lightweight (compared to the crawling horror that is Adobe Reader), and when you re-open a PDF, opens it at the position you were last time(!!!). The latter feature makes it perfect for viewing reference manuals etc. EDIT: https://www.sumatrapdfreader.org/free-pdf-reader.html EDIT²: IrfanView can display many graphic formats and quit…

Ah yes, IrfanView was what I always used!

Is there any particular reason why Microsoft hasn't included a built-in IrfanView/Preview.app at this point?

Re: Microsoft Paint to be killed off after 32 years

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Post by mavhc »

chadgeidel wrote: post #284
mavhc wrote: post #136

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Got to get people to use Edge somehow. Also try banning installers from adding pinned icons so users don't use Chrome, banning installers from setting defaults so users don't use Chrome, When you do open Chrome adding adverts for Edge to the screen (it's totally faster guys, come on). Banning browsers from the Windows Store, and thus Windows 10S.

"...banning installers from setting defaults..." goes way, way further than "... so users don't use Chrome". Installers silently replacing my default app is user-hostile and I encourage any steps my OS vendor takes to reduce the ability to do that. I had zero problems manually switching my default browser in Windows 10 to Chrome.

It's more the way they did it, and continue to try to reset Edge to be default.

I'm talking about my users who can't work the shift key, they just click whatever is pinned to the task bar. Same with how Mail is now pinned by default, even though everyone uses web mail.

Any individual one of these wouldn't be too much of a concern, but together it seems suspicious.

Re: Microsoft Paint to be killed off after 32 years

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Post by probablybanned »

dm319 wrote: post #304
dcole2929 wrote: post #231

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Exactly this. It's nice that lightning theoretically gives you more throughput but it's completely pointless if the signal has to get transformed a half dozen times between device and ear. And all the nicer phones aren't going to lightning cables either because the Pro Audio community (the people primarily buying $3-400 non Beats headphones) would revolt.

Yes, has anyone looked at the quality of the DAC in the 'dongle'?

Some tests are referenced in this article:

https://ifixit.org/blog/8448/apple-audio-adapter-teardown/

Re: Microsoft Paint to be killed off after 32 years

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Post by gpvos »

flukus wrote: post #360
rhencke wrote: post #224

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Anyone wondering as to why Paint.NET transitioned to closed source may find this insightful: https://blog.getpaint.net/2007/12/04/freeware-authors-beware...

What license was it under? If it was something like BSD than it sounds like what people were doing with the program was legal.

MIT, and no. Even the BSD and MIT licenses don't allow you to remove the copyright notice.

Re: Microsoft Paint to be killed off after 32 years

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Post by vram22 »

krylon wrote: post #377
vram22 wrote: post #325

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Interesting, have you tried Foxit PDF Reader, and if so, how does it compare to SumatraPDF? I haven't used the latter but have used the former.

I know Foxit Reader. SumatraPDF is fairly minimalistic, it is a single executable file that runs without installation. Foxit has far more features than SumatraPDF, it is more like the slim sibling of Acrobat (no insult intended!). (SumtraPDF.exe is something like 3.5 MB, Foxit's msi package is something like 70 MB, IIRC) But Foxit never has given me any reason to complain. I have across a few tricky PDF files that to…

Thanks for the inputs. My experience with Foxit is mostly good, like yours has been. Will still check out SumatraPDF too.

Re: Microsoft Paint to be killed off after 32 years

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Post by ctolkien »

mwexler wrote: post #67

All the comments that "you can just use X to do Y" is missing the point that Paint just works, for almost every value of Y. No argument, Paint.net is great, snipping tool solves the grab and crop, but for most anything else you need to do in a hurry, you need a quick paint program. It's like removing Notepad: we all know hundreds of editors we would replace it with, from Notepad++ to vim/emacs... but isn't nice that…

https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2017/07/24/ms-pa...

Paint isn't going anywhere.

Re: Microsoft Paint to be killed off after 32 years

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Post by lps41 »

notadoc wrote: post #250
lps41 wrote: post #212

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I'm curious about this - why do you no longer listen to music or podcasts? The phone comes with headphones that plug directly into the lightning port, and an 1/8" adapter so you can still use your old headphones. Personally I just keep the adapter permanently attached to my 1/8" headphones. Only downside for me is the inability to charge at the same time, but then the iPhone 7's battery life is pretty great, so that'…

Do you remember to carry your dongle with you everywhere you go? Do you carry a spare dongle in your pocket?

Like I said, I just leave my dongle attached to my headphones all the time. I forget the dongle even exists.

Re: Microsoft Paint to be killed off after 32 years

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Post by lps41 »

dcole2929 wrote: post #229
lps41 wrote: post #212

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I'm curious about this - why do you no longer listen to music or podcasts? The phone comes with headphones that plug directly into the lightning port, and an 1/8" adapter so you can still use your old headphones. Personally I just keep the adapter permanently attached to my 1/8" headphones. Only downside for me is the inability to charge at the same time, but then the iPhone 7's battery life is pretty great, so that'…

Probably because this person like many has multiple headphones. I have nicer "cans" I use at work. I have the crappy included ones that I use in the gym or when commuting. Noise cancelling buds for travel. And that's not even counting the times I might want to use the aux cord in my car. Having to carry around an adapter is dumb. I have a 6s and will not be upgrading to any phone without a headphone jack

The aux cord in the car was actually a major concern for me too when I was considering upgrading to the 7. And then I found this $15 bluetooth FM transmitter: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01KJJP1TG/

The sound quality is fantastic and it's easily way more convenient than using an aux cable: No cord, and it has play/pause and track skip buttons on it!

Also has a microphone for Siri/phone calls though I've never used it to speak to its quality.

There are a bunch of similar ones on Amazon with slightly varying features.

I do understand it would be frustrating to swap the dongle around if you have multiple headphones though. Worth noting that the "crappy included ones" that come with the phone are already lightning though so they don't need an adapter.

Re: Microsoft Paint to be killed off after 32 years

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Post by underwater »

mwexler wrote: post #67

All the comments that "you can just use X to do Y" is missing the point that Paint just works, for almost every value of Y. No argument, Paint.net is great, snipping tool solves the grab and crop, but for most anything else you need to do in a hurry, you need a quick paint program. It's like removing Notepad: we all know hundreds of editors we would replace it with, from Notepad++ to vim/emacs... but isn't nice that…

I don't understand the love for Paint. It's terrible at almost every single thing it does. Cropping is complicated. Resizing is complicated. Text and drawing result in a blocky mess. It's just unfortunate Paint 3D is a slug.
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