Earlier quoted context omitted.
I completely understand and sympathize with your point, however this: "If you use a slightly niche OS (say, OpenBSD on ARM)" Is rather hilarious - calling OpenBSD on ARM a 'slightly niche' OS in the context of 'operating systems people use to watch video on the web' is rather ambitious, don't you think? OpenBSD on ARM would have to increase it's user base in this arena by a couple orders of magnitude to elevate itsel…
isn't the Nintendo Switch based on either OpenBSD or FreeBSD and uses ARM? woudn't that be a good reason to have a plugin for that? > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Switch_system_softwar...
Update on HTML5 Video for Netflix
381–390 of 524 posts
Re: Update on HTML5 Video for Netflix
#382Earlier quoted context omitted.
We somehow got away from DRM on audio. I was wondering how to do this for video too. What worked for audio, was that you had one vendor (Apple) that had a large enough market share. In order to sell DRMd media that worked on Ipods, the media companies had to sell through Apple. Or they could sell non-DRMd files that would still work on Ipods. They did the calculation, and figured they would make more money going non-…
Aren't music publishers a lot less consolidated than there movie/TV counterparts?
I said kinda of because not all sign with big three and further more there are so many independent artists out there releasing to YouTube or Apple iTune or Soundcloud on their own).
(Disclaimer: work in a music company)
Re: Update on HTML5 Video for Netflix
#383Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, the problem started when people decided installing a browser from an ad agency seemed like a good idea.
Does anyone remember what the prevailing mood was like when/before Chrome started becoming popular? Were people simply happy to see more companies putting a dent in that avatar of Lovecraftian horrors that was Internet Explorer? Why didn't Mozilla work harder to catch up with Chrome and counter Google? Was it a case of "My enemy's enemy is my friend?" And why did Opera slip away into the mists of obscurity? I remembe…
I'd argue that this "catching up to Google" was more their problem than their solution.
In making Firefox more and more Chrome-like they took away many unique and important Firefox features and they keep moving further and further in that direction. They now want to trash XUL and move to an extension framework that exactly matches Chrome's, removing the deep flexibility and customization that Firefox users have enjoyed. Several of my favorite extension authors have already announced they're giving up when that change happens.
If your browser just plays catch up without differentiating itself in any significant way, why would anyone use it?
Mozilla came up with some cool UI ideas, but never implemented them, or quickly did so, got them to a tiny percentage of their full potential and then abandoned them. That's the kind of thing they should be focusing on - that's the kind of thing that made Firefox gain market share in the first place. Instead they keep playing catch up. And playing catch up with a massive codebase against a giant company is incredibly hard.
Right now Brave is doing a better job differentiating itself and it's built on top of Electron - on Chrome's core codebase. If it were a little more active I think it'd have a shot at something.
Re: Update on HTML5 Video for Netflix
#384Re: Update on HTML5 Video for Netflix
#385Earlier quoted context omitted.
So, install a DRM-free browser on your universal computer and get a dedicated box for the subscription service? Except for perfectly avoidable waste, what did I miss?
The problem is, eventually, no one is going to make an DRM-free browser because "no one" will use it if they can't watch movies or access whatever other content will be locked down with EME. Firefox let's you easily disable DRM, for now, I have no faith it will remain that way forever. If content providers were really never going to give up on DRM requirements, I think a standardized "Media Browser" specification sho…
Re: Update on HTML5 Video for Netflix
#386Translation: Netflix successfully lobied DRM into what is supposed to be the OPEN web standard, to the point where even Firefox couldn't afford not to support it. Dark days for the free exchange of information enabled by the web.
Sorry, but as someone who spent nearly a decade founding and building a premium content VOD service, and 6 of those years fighting fiercely against DRM and making great content available without DRM, I have both the knowledge and moral authority to say that you're living in a fantasy world. You might as well say that anyone who is not living an RMS-sanctioned ascetic technology lifestyle is hurting the cause of free…
Proprietary plugins have been the source of the majority of exploits. EME will be no different
Re: Update on HTML5 Video for Netflix
#387Earlier quoted context omitted.
People have been recording the things they watch since the invention of the VCR. DRM will not have any impact on that. Someone will come along, and make a video-grabbing utility that bypasses the DRM. Also, many of the content is already available via bittorrent. DRM is pointless. But perhaps you are right about "browser vendors refusing to cooperate" not being the best possible approach. However, do you know what is…
We somehow got away from DRM on audio. I was wondering how to do this for video too. What worked for audio, was that you had one vendor (Apple) that had a large enough market share. In order to sell DRMd media that worked on Ipods, the media companies had to sell through Apple. Or they could sell non-DRMd files that would still work on Ipods. They did the calculation, and figured they would make more money going non-…
Guess which industry watched how that happened REALLY REALLY closely?
The music industry was falling apart by the time they gave up on DRM, the video industry is still very strong and had time to learn where all the mistakes were made that lead to DRM free content.
Re: Update on HTML5 Video for Netflix
#388Earlier quoted context omitted.
> People want to watch what they want to watch. You keep using this phrase. Doesn't that also suggest that, if given enough trouble, they will just pirate that content instead? DRM has shown to do very little to stop that, so why continue pretending that it does.
> You keep using this phrase. Doesn't that also suggest that, if given enough trouble, they will just pirate that content instead? DRM has shown to do very little to stop that, so why continue pretending that it does. Yes, but, in general, trouble has been decreasing, and so has the need to pirate. I would argue that there are only three kinds of people who pirate anymore: 1. People who want a local copy of the conte…
Re: Update on HTML5 Video for Netflix
#389Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you discount the cost of your time to zero. Otherwise it's not even worth a minimum wage job.
It only needs to be done by one person, not every viewer. And yes, the value of much of my time is effectively zero. The same is true for most people.
Re: Update on HTML5 Video for Netflix
#390Earlier quoted context omitted.
You don't understand how this works. Firefox just provides some APIs that the DRM blob can use. All the decryption is done by the blob, not Firefox. You can reverse engineer the blob itself to an extent, but that will also become impossible with SGX (hence 4k on kabylake + edge only).
What's to stop someone reverse engineering the blob before it's loaded into an SGX enclave? I don't understand it very well so I could be missing something, but wouldn't that at least let someone document how the DRM works even if not running their own implementation?