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Re: Amazon LightSail: Simple Virtual Private Servers on AWS

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Post by justJanne »

berns wrote: post #373
kuschku wrote: post #299

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I expanded it with those companies: Price breakdown vs DigitalOcean, Vultr, Linode, OVH, and Online.net / Scaleway: $5/mo | Provider | RAM | Cores | Storage | Transfer | | ---------------------- | ----- | ----- | ---------- | -------- | | LightSail | 512MB | 1 | 20GB SSD | 1TB | | DO | 512MB | 1 | 20GB SSD | 1TB | | VULTR | 768MB | 1 | 15GB SSD | 1TB | | Hetzner (virtual) | 1GB | 1 | 25GB SSD | 2TB | | OVH | 2GB | 1…

The OVH numbers are wrong. For example in the public cloud for $ 80 you get 60GB RAM, 4 vcores and 400 GB disk (or 200 GB SSD no raid).

Could you link the offer? I couldn’t find any in their VPS or Dedicated offers better than the 16$ VPS (which I then used for the 40$ and 80$ tier, too)

Re: Amazon LightSail: Simple Virtual Private Servers on AWS

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Post by justJanne »

nik736 wrote: post #356
kuschku wrote: post #299

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I expanded it with those companies: Price breakdown vs DigitalOcean, Vultr, Linode, OVH, and Online.net / Scaleway: $5/mo | Provider | RAM | Cores | Storage | Transfer | | ---------------------- | ----- | ----- | ---------- | -------- | | LightSail | 512MB | 1 | 20GB SSD | 1TB | | DO | 512MB | 1 | 20GB SSD | 1TB | | VULTR | 768MB | 1 | 15GB SSD | 1TB | | Hetzner (virtual) | 1GB | 1 | 25GB SSD | 2TB | | OVH | 2GB | 1…

Well, you are comparing shitty atom cores to E5 cores. These are just some random numbers without context.

Well, I’m just extending the previous’ posters list.

But Amazon will lower your CPU quota as well, if you use it for too long, so it’s not like the numbers of Amazon themselves even really mean anything.

The same story with storage performance – Amazon’s is horrible, but it’s network-attached.

Re: Amazon LightSail: Simple Virtual Private Servers on AWS

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Post by adventured »

meritt wrote: post #121

Is there anything preventing me from using these servers as proxies with incredibly cheap bandwidth? I assume it stacks? When we reach transfer limits I can just spin up an additional $5 instance to add another 1TB? $5/mo per 1TB of bandwidth = $5.00 / 1024 = $0.0049/GB compared to EC2's normal $0.09/GB -- That's a 91-95% discount on egress data!

Sort of. Lightsail service limits:

"You can currently create up to 20 Lightsail instances, 5 static IPs, and 3 DNS domain zones in a Lightsail account."

So obviously there's a hard cap within one account. The $80 account comes with 5tb, so one would have to be burning a bit of bandwidth - 100tb - to cap it out. Frankly though, at $1600, Amazon is still printing a massive profit margin on that 100tb of transfer.

These seem like they'd be good front-end servers hooked up to RDS etc.

Re: Amazon LightSail: Simple Virtual Private Servers on AWS

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Post by nikon »

brilliantcode wrote: post #343

What a day for AWS on HN. 8 AWS products made it to front page. I've learned new AWS product like Cognito today just from the comments (ironically in the "Google is Challenging AWS" thread). I feel as excited as I was for Azure's Build 2016. Now I'm feeling pulled to AWS. This is great for AWS, not so much for Google Cloud which further fades into obscurity in my mind. I'd love to see that change, more competition in…

Sorry how has AWS killed digitalocean? It's more expensive. With poor disk performance.

Re: Amazon LightSail: Simple Virtual Private Servers on AWS

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Post by deelowe »

imdsm wrote: post #370
olegkikin wrote: post #295

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't really care. My $6/month deal beats any $5/month deal from the major players, and by a huge margin. I recently tested the internet speed on it, and I got 850 real Mbps out of the promised 1Gbps channel, which is good enough for me. I can give Memcached 1GB of RAM and not worry about killing everything else. I have a bunch of sites running on it without stepping on each other, and I doubt that would be the cas…

You're telling me that your 150GB HDD beats a 20GB SSD? Even though they're both going to sit at 10GB free for years.

He won't reply. He's currently furiously working on integrating his wordpress plugins.

Seriously though, Amazon is going after a totally different market than the budget providers.

Re: Amazon LightSail: Simple Virtual Private Servers on AWS

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Post by CJefferson »

Pyxl101 wrote: post #206
zwischenzug wrote: post #162

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Me too. I want protection against my own stupidity, as well as sheer ignorance of the charges. This put me off AWS for years, and I was deeply shocked there was no one-click 'suspend at x$'. For a company that supposedly puts the customer first, this is appalling.

It's difficult to come up with a good model for how a billing ceiling would work in software as a service. A good start would be to fully specify what behavior you desire when an account hits its billing limit. Are you expecting everything to keep working like normal while the cloud provider pays the bill for those resources, or are you expecting the provider to fully shut everything down in a way that prevents the a…

"it's reasonable for cloud providers to give billing threshold alerts while leaving the choice of what to do in the hands of the customer.".

But, they don't don't give us the choice. I need to keep an eye every moment of every day for an alarm, as hundreds or thousands of dollars rack up. That's the ONE THING I DON'T WANT. I'd take anything else (delete my data, lock everything, whatever) over charging me money I can't afford to pay.

I think it would be reasonable to put everything into a no access / deep freeze mode, until I pay up and choose to unfreeze. Would it cost Amazon that much to just keep my data locked for a couple of weeks while I sort out my storage? I'd even be happy for a reserved $100 or so to pay for keeping the storage going.

Re: Amazon LightSail: Simple Virtual Private Servers on AWS

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Post by berns »

justJanne wrote: post #381
berns wrote: post #373

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The OVH numbers are wrong. For example in the public cloud for $ 80 you get 60GB RAM, 4 vcores and 400 GB disk (or 200 GB SSD no raid).

Could you link the offer? I couldn’t find any in their VPS or Dedicated offers better than the 16$ VPS (which I then used for the 40$ and 80$ tier, too)

https://www.ovh.com/us/cloud/instances/prices.xml

Re: Amazon LightSail: Simple Virtual Private Servers on AWS

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Post by adventured »

jedisct1 wrote: post #286
raitom wrote: post #133

Meanwhile, in France: https://www.scaleway.com/ Same thing with OVH, you can get a powerful dedicated server with unlimited bandwidth for the price of a medium EC2 instance. I hope they will open their datacenter in California soon.

Amazon sells at prices people are willing to buy. Keep in mind that in France, very few people know that Amazon is more than a website selling books and random stuff. But in the US, very few people know about OVH and Scaleway.

Not to mention that Amazon is selling a large ecosystem of services and you pay for it accordingly. If someone doesn't need that, they'd be crazy to pay Amazon's premium. OVH and Scaleway are selling fundamentally different products than AWS is.

Re: Amazon LightSail: Simple Virtual Private Servers on AWS

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Post by nikon »

misframer wrote: post #332
jedisct1 wrote: post #269

Lightsail: $5/mo 512 MB, 1 core, 20 GB SSD, bandwidth cap -- Scaleway: $3.2/mo 2 GB memory, 2 cores, 50 GB SSD, unmetered bandwidth. Lightsail 2: $10/mo 1 GB memory, 1 core, 30 GB SSD, bandwidth cap -- Scaleway: $10/mo 8 GB memory, 6 cores, 200 GB SSD, unmetered bandwidth. OVH virtual servers have also always been cheaper than Lightsail, and bandwidth is of course unmetered: https://www.ovh.com/us/vps/vps-ssd.xml

It looks like OVH doesn't charge hourly for those.

The OVH public cloud offers hourly instances (50% discount if monthly).

https://www.ovh.com/us/cloud/instances/prices.xml

Re: Amazon LightSail: Simple Virtual Private Servers on AWS

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Post by olegkikin »

imdsm wrote: post #370
olegkikin wrote: post #295

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't really care. My $6/month deal beats any $5/month deal from the major players, and by a huge margin. I recently tested the internet speed on it, and I got 850 real Mbps out of the promised 1Gbps channel, which is good enough for me. I can give Memcached 1GB of RAM and not worry about killing everything else. I have a bunch of sites running on it without stepping on each other, and I doubt that would be the cas…

You're telling me that your 150GB HDD beats a 20GB SSD? Even though they're both going to sit at 10GB free for years.

All the critical things should sit in RAM anyway. The SSD will beat the HDD if you read/write to disk heavily. But not if you need space.

If I need an SSD, there are options too, though DigitalOcean is indeed one of the best if you need a cheap US-based server. If the location doesn't matter, EU, Russia, Ukraine have some great deals.

Example: $4.6/month = 40GB SSD, 1GB RAM, 3 cores, unlimited traffic @200Mbps.

https://firstbyte.ru/vps-vds/kvm-ssd/

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