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Re: Elementary OS

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Post by erikpukinskis »

_qc3o wrote: post #153

I really don't understand why developers use macs at all. They're not good dev machines. All production systems I work with are some flavor of linux (mostly ubuntu). There is actually a real impedance mismatch when I'm using my mac for work purposes. All those cores and RAM become meaningless when I have to do everything in a VM anyway. My personal dev machine is a project sputnik running ubuntu 16.04. I can understa…

I pretty much don't use any technology outside of Node, the browser, and HTTP so it doesn't really matter to me what platform I'm on.

Maybe I'm not a real developer according to your standards. Not enough configuration files and build systems modeled in my brain to qualify. I just prefer code to black boxes.

Re: Elementary OS

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Post by e12e »

maratc wrote: post #378
e12e wrote: post #372

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Right. So select copies. You can select with touchpad, or select with mouse. As for pasting, it's typically shift-insert (that is the keyboard shortcut for third mouse-button - three-finger tap should work, if you prefer). But I think Sakura might try and follow gtk(?) convention of generally supporing ctrl-v for paste (can't test that right now, as I've not gotten around to dual-boot/install a Linux vm on my Surface…

Well, there is no Insert key on my laptop, and Ctrl-V means something else in Vim, for instance. Now, Linux vs MacOS vs Windows -- I get the difference, it's like moving from a manual car to automatic. But imagine you're given a manual car where every gear works normally except for the second -- and second gear requires some extra movement; like pressing a button, or turning a gear stick 90 degrees clockwise. How soo…

> Well, there is no Insert key on my laptop

One could argue that you have a broken keyboard (which can of course be fixed with xmodmap). Certainly, it's odd to complain about going from a non-standard command-c/v combination, that your keyboard is missing an insert key.

> and Ctrl-V means something else in Vim, for instance.

Sure, ctrl-keys are semi-consistent in each niche - and vim can paste and yank from the standard X11 cliboards (yes, sadly plural): "+p and "p (where is * escaped for hn formating).

http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Accessing_the_system_clipboard

You're free to make up your own mappings, just like Apple has done. And Apple deserves credit for forging a consistent user interface. And Microsoft at some point gave up fighting over ctrl and alt, just like Apple did, and rather than copy "command" they made the "windows"/super and "menu"/super keys.

So again, for all the faults one can find with inconsistencies in Linux/Xorg, the clipboard is actually fairly consistent IMNHO - especially considering the various archaic software packages it continues to support (eg: vi(m), emacs, tty's etc).

Re: Elementary OS

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Post by wuschel »

user5994461 wrote: post #373
SnowingXIV wrote: post #365

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Spotify, Google Music, Apple Music, Pandora? Before I had to worry about space and moving my music around. Now it's on every device. Has all my playlists, all the music I listened to + discover new stuff, friends can send me songs I might like, can even download for offline if I'm worried about not having internet, etc. It's been a much better solution than playing everything in Winamp which I used forever or iTunes.

I was about to answer VLC and then I red your answer and realized I'm lagging 10 years behind.

VLC is one of the best open source programs ever written. I use it on mobile+notebook for video and music (320-encoded files on a 128 GB SD card). Youtube/many other apps are just not OK in quality.

Re: Elementary OS

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Post by fernandotakai »

eth0up wrote: post #64
fernandotakai wrote: post #33

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i've been using linux on my macbook for the past 1.5 years and now i have it on my desktop. webcam both on the mbp and my logitech hd work out of the box. sleep on closing lid also works quite well -- and i feel waking it up is faster.

Using Deb on a macbook 4,1 from 2008. Camera doesn't work though. What year is your mackbook? I configured this one last week for a friend who had it laying around in the closet for years with a locked password and no particular interest in Macs. I convinced them to nix the MacOS and try Linux, arguing it would perform more efficiently, and compared to the MacOS version previously installed, it very much does. And te…

i used the native osx disk utility to create a partition. i'm using archlinux on a mid-2012 macbook pro.

which kernel were you installing?

Re: Elementary OS

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Post by vurpo »

metafunctor wrote: post #248
mavelikara wrote: post #9

My mini Ask HN: After over a decade of using Mac OS X, I am considering switching to Linux for my dev laptop. The tools I worry about are those that interact with audio and webcam - Go To Meeting, Google Hangout etc. My work involves me having to teleconf with others often. Does anyone here have experience using Linux well in such scenarios. If so, what hardware are you using? Also, does sleep-on-closing-lid work wel…

This is why I still choose to go with Mac OS X, even if their most recent hardware is very, very expensive. I don't have time to tinker with compiling kernels, configuring X11, figuring out which photo management software to use, setting up reliable backups, getting my Bluetooth headset to work, and, yes, getting the machine to suspend when I close the lid and wake up when I open it. These are basics that will just w…

Compiling your kernel hasn't been necessary for like a decade by now. Configuring X is becoming a thing of the past, partially because of working automatic config, and partially because of the move away from X to Wayland-based desktops.

I use Fedora on a ThinkPad X230. It works an absolute dream. GNOME is my favorite of all the desktops, and Fedora by default ships a fully setup and functioning Gnome on Wayland session (which will also be the default session in the next release, coming in a few weeks).

The reason I chose to run Fedora on a ThinkPad is because it required no tweaking and fiddling at all to get working nicely. I'm all about that seamless out-of-the-box experience.

I was amused by the post here today about the Touch ID fork of sudo for macOS, because I already use the same feature on my ThinkPad every day, and it required absolutely no configuration or setup (other than enrolling my fingerprint).

Re: Elementary OS

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Post by chipz »

really_operator wrote: post #356
chipz wrote: post #295

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have anyone tried Apricity, https://apricityos.com ? I'm currently using Archlinux now, so far I enjoy using it, but the fact that we have to put much effort on installing it makes me don't want to recommend it. I try to find simple-to-install-with-Arch-linux-based-OS, still with rolling release and pacman -Syu to update the entire OS.

I haven't tried Apricity, but I have tried Antergos, and you just described Antergos.

That's nice information! Thanks, gonna try that!

Re: Elementary OS

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Post by jayroh »

compuguy wrote: post #266
jayroh wrote: post #177

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Heeeey so, if we're talking about potential alternatives here? I need to just leave this here and encourage anyone looking for something better to take a look: https://www.meetspaceapp.com Full disclaimer: I'm a friend of the founder, however I'm a paying customer due to the fact that 1. It's worked wonders with my clients and 2. It's so much better than hangouts or skype. Compared to the big boys it may be considere…

The reason we stuck with jitsi-meet is that it could be self hosted on an semi-airgapped network, and not break without internet. Also, your friend should invest in a ssl cert, because your link goes directly to a privacy warning.

Ah, the main homepage doesn't look like it's got ssl set up like the actual meat (a subdomain) of the app does. I'll pass it along to him. Thx

Re: Elementary OS

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Post by chrisked »

b15h0p wrote: post #377
legulere wrote: post #343

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You can use two fingers over the keyboard for moving the cursor on an iPad (force touch on the keyboard with iphones)

But you can not select text using that method, can you?

On the iPhone with force touch you can. You have to press again then you can freely select. That's the only time I use force touch :)

Re: Elementary OS

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Post by solatic »

matt4077 wrote: post #192
endgame wrote: post #139

> It has polish and care that the stereotypical raging neckbeards who espouse the mantra of Linux on the desktop are unable to appreciate (or, apparently, build), and it has to exist, even if merely as a counterpoint to all the ugliness. Please be nice :(. Some of those so-called "neckbeards" probably helped build the stack upon which things like elementaryOS rest.

Having an interest in design, I often feel a vibe of aggression towards the whole endeavor coming from some elements of OSS scene that I can see being equally infuriating or hurtful as "neckbeards". Among them are: - dismissal of design as a sort of thin veneer, somewhat fake, lipstick-on-good-bacon - design as a kludge aimed at amateurs, to the point of preferring the worse UI (all else being equal) so as to prove s…

> dismissal of design as a sort of thin veneer, somewhat fake, lipstick-on-good-bacon

Part of the problem is that people confuse good design with pretty design (on both sides). The purpose of design is not to improve aesthetics but to improve usability. Aesthetics is an important component of usability, to be sure, but it is not the primary goal.

The difficulty is that power-user control/discoverability/aesthetics ends up being a pick-two triangle. And most designs pushing aesthetics also push discoverability, and power users feel shafted with an overly simplistic tool that isn't as productive as their tool which emphasizes control but totally lacks in discoverability and maybe leaves aesthetics to plug-in themes.

Good design tries to maximize all three.

Re: Elementary OS

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Post by hashhar »

All of the stuff he praises about Elementary is just vanilla GNOME. I mean, he can't even recognize that Rhythmbox has looked the same for over 3 years now.
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