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Evernote cuts 47 employees and shuts down 3 offices

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Re: Evernote cuts 47 employees and shuts down 3 offices

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> took a bunch of VC money Notes-taking apps have the competition of . There isn't much left to do for a notes-taking app: Everything else is bells and whistles. Responsibilities should be called here. Dropbox, Evernote, Slack and GitHub are all 4 hosting a massive free service, highly replaceable with cheap alternatives, with low switching costs. I sincerely hope the VCs who invest in those companies have another pl…

Can't take you seriously when you say Github is highly replaceable. Try and go hosting your open source project on some obscure hosted code repository, let me know when you get lots of contributors.

Quality > Quantity.

Open Source projects existed a long time before GitHub, and will exist a long time after the cool kids abandoned it for whatever reason.

Re: Evernote cuts 47 employees and shuts down 3 offices

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Have you submitted it as a feature request to their support? I get the feeling they just don't have enough people asking for it.

I made a feature request quite a long time ago for LaTeX math support. Every few months another person +1s the suggestion. I don't get the sense that they really take the suggestions on the forum particularly seriously.

LaTeX math support would be another awesome feature. I'll go +1 it now as well :)

Re: Evernote cuts 47 employees and shuts down 3 offices

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I was an Evernote Premium customer and enjoyed multi-device syncing and private notebooks. I had my own account, paid for out of my own pocket for a year. The company I worked for also decided to used Evernote and I could see our "Team" notebooks, right along with my stuff. When the company stopped using it, not only did I lose the "Team" notebooks, it took all of my personal data with it. I lost everything. Support…

I recently lost nearly a days writing - but apparently they only do a back-up every 8 hours, and I was off by one (I don't write in Evernote anymore, lesson learned). They did try to placate with 3 months free (after being a paying customer for years), but I'm just amazed that with the ~$300M of VC they've raised, they still haven't caught up to the real-time sync of Google Docs of 8+ years ago. Hopefully their new f…

> I'm just amazed that with the ~$300M of VC they've raised, they still haven't caught up to the real-time sync of Google Docs of 8+ years ago.

I don't understand. EverNote has instant sync across devices. If you are using in web browser or PC client then its even real time. (Android one requires you to click "Done" before syncing apparently because it treats the whole note as one giant text area).

I very frequently switch between typing on my desktop or my tablet whenever i leave my desk but have an idea running in my head. Similarly if someone is viewing my note, they get frequent updates as I type

Re: Evernote cuts 47 employees and shuts down 3 offices

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What is the auxiliary stuff that they've dropped? (or will drop/reduce emphasis on) Genuinely curious. I've noted that they seem to have multiple apps in the AppStore doing similar things.

You know, auxiliary stuff like business socks. https://www.evernote.com/market/feature/socks-en_CA?sku=SOCK...

Oh my god, this has to be a joke. The lines "We've got you covered" and "It's your business" are too bad to be real.

Re: Evernote cuts 47 employees and shuts down 3 offices

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> ... markdown support Yes, 1000 times yes! I so wish I could author in Evernote using markdown. Getting any sort of rich text done in a note is extremely cumbersome in Evernote, lists for instance.

I will guiltily admit that Ctrl+Shift+U is hard coded into my finger DNA - I use Evernote for every meeting, every discussion we have, and quickly creating lists (or getting out of list mode) is actually one thing I like about evernote.

I mostly use Evernote on my iOS devices. While I do have a keyboard for my iPad, I am not sure that works there, but I'll give it a go. Ultimately, though, markdown support would be my ideal so that I don't have to learn a new set of key combinations. I already know emacs ;) Plus markdown is easier to use than a key combination like that (IMO of course).

Re: Evernote cuts 47 employees and shuts down 3 offices

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That makes the bull side of the argument significantly stronger, especially given that N. American gross billings are up 12% year-over-year in the last quarter. I have no financial position either way, and I'm not claiming everything is rosy for GRPN but it's very far from being a "dead unicorn" and at least by my analysis the stock is pretty undervalued at the moment.

The lower the stock drops the more it will rocket up!

The Motley Fool does seem to think that way sometimes.

Re: Evernote cuts 47 employees and shuts down 3 offices

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I reckon Evernote would be good bolt-on for a cloud collaboration company like Huddle or Box. The problem is that it's not worth $1bn to a company like that, so any acquisition would result in a paper loss for those who invested at a $1bn valuation (not to mention the founders and employees who would probably get screwed by liquidation preferences).

Re: Evernote cuts 47 employees and shuts down 3 offices

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That is incredible. I'm sorry that behavior like that exists and that service providers can be so terrible at what they do. It also sounds like an implied admission, on the part of evernote, of not having working backups ? I would think that they would have found some way any way to get your data back to you given what just happened.

That might just mean that they delete all backups when the account gets deleted for privacy reasons.

Thanks for pointing that out. If a company shuts down their account I suppose it's actually a feature that copies of their notebooks be deleted from every employee's system. Though the glitch is when personal notebooks are deleted.

I think a middle ground would be a two step deletion, no?

Step1 : Delete from everyone's machine but keep a backup for X days to allow people to file complaints etc.

Step2 : Delete Backup

Re: Evernote cuts 47 employees and shuts down 3 offices

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I was an Evernote Premium customer and enjoyed multi-device syncing and private notebooks. I had my own account, paid for out of my own pocket for a year. The company I worked for also decided to used Evernote and I could see our "Team" notebooks, right along with my stuff. When the company stopped using it, not only did I lose the "Team" notebooks, it took all of my personal data with it. I lost everything. Support…

I sound like a cynic when I say this, but the root cause of failures like this is a principle fundamental to Evernote: data owned by an application, rather than data accessed by an application. If all your data exists in a file hierachy that you can browse, edit manually, and back up, then you have the safety of relying only on foundational systems for the survival of your data, and the power to use your data as you…

> is a principle fundamental to Evernote: data owned by an application, rather than data accessed by an application.

Close, its a principle fundamental to modern cloud-based companies.

Offer the cloud storage for free, for 0 privacy and the permission to read, copy, access, and sell your data to third parties

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