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Re: Massive, Illicit Bust of Edward Snowden Stuck to a War Monument in Brooklyn

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Post by Semiapies » Wed, Apr 08, 2015, 3:24 PM UTC

cdbajorin wrote: post #367

Semiapies wrote: post #320

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Seriously? When you responded with "I've never seen a plausible argument supporting what Snowden did that boiled down to more than [my morality is more important than your laws]", you were trying to mock my complaint. However, while I was complaining about a lack of argument, you were complaining about an actual , very valid argument that I endorsed. Or to put it another way, snarking about people who think morality…

> you were complaining about an actual, very valid argument that I endorsed Here's a list of people that were morally justified in breaking the law: Rosa Parks, Martin Luther King Jr., Eric Rudolph, Mohamed Atta Some you may agree with, hopefully some you don't. But it's YOUR morality, so I'm sure it's OK.

Not just my morality, as stated above. But you're clearly not following the discussion, so I'll leave you be.

Re: Massive, Illicit Bust of Edward Snowden Stuck to a War Monument in Brooklyn

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Post by pvaldes » Wed, Apr 08, 2015, 10:41 PM UTC

Zigurd wrote: post #313

What we really want to know is where can we get giant Snowden busts and is there a directory of empty plinths on the internet?

Giant Snowden busts should look really great as the next generation of science fair soda volcanoes. The flame of truth everywhere... yup

Re: Massive, Illicit Bust of Edward Snowden Stuck to a War Monument in Brooklyn

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Post by dragontamer » Thu, Apr 09, 2015, 12:31 AM UTC

Dylan16807 wrote: post #364

dragontamer wrote: post #359

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> Well we're talking about a 'nameless warrant' to only access something they could access at-will before, so I don't see that as a real problem. No. A warrant means they can start accessing data. Install bugs, tracking devices... the whole works . All fourth amendment protections are gone once a judge grants the Police a warrant. The question is whether or not you want "Metadata" to be part of that pool or not. Pers…

>No. A warrant means Are you serious? We're talking about a new thing that only restricts access compared to before. It would not be the same as a warrant today. That objection is ridiculous . >Status Quo for the past decades. Part of the problem is that it used to take manpower to spy on people, and a lot of that is getting replaced with computers that do it for nearly free. It's not a legal change, but it changes t…

> Are you serious? We're talking about a new thing that only restricts access compared to before. It would not be the same as a warrant today. That objection is ridiculous.

Okay, I'm gonna cut off the conversation at this point. YCombinator is not a good forum for discussion. I see you're frustrated so we'll just let it end here.

I strongly disagree with your opinion, so I'm thinking its best to just agree to disagree at this point.

Re: Massive, Illicit Bust of Edward Snowden Stuck to a War Monument in Brooklyn

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Post by ta0967 » Sat, Apr 11, 2015, 2:27 PM UTC

genericuser wrote: post #175

ta0967 wrote: post #158

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not have worked, "founding principles".

I am not certain that offering grammar corrections is very constructive. Also if you read the article in the parent post you would notice that your second correction should be directed at it not me, as I accurately copy pasted that quotation.

* my comment was meant for other people reading your comment as much as it was for you. people soak up english in informal ways (such as reading stuff on the web) and someone might be led to use the wrong words. * some mistakes (and actual meanings) are obvious, others are more subtle. what else in the text conveys meaning that is different from the author's intent? * what purpose does it serve to say or write A when you meant B, outside of humor?