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Re: YouTube now defaults to HTML5 video

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Post by walterbell »

bzbarsky wrote: post #363
walterbell wrote: post #331

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Is there any current or proposed implementation that can support W3C SMIL in the browser? A decade ago, RealPlayer was able to seamlessly edit video excerpts (defined by start::stop intervals) into a single video stream. The excerpts could have originated from different servers. Will the new DRM formats support this use case? E.g. if I'm a paying Netflix subscriber, could I view a dynamically defined (XML or JSON) ma…

You could build something like that in Javascript on top of HTML and MSE, probably. The EME (DRM) spec is not really related to this.

Wouldn't the DRM spec have to explicitly permit MSE buffering? If Javascript could buffer the stream and send it to any destination other than a DRM-approved output device, that would defeat the DRM.

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Post by lozf »

rttlesnke wrote: post #281
maaku wrote: post #131

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What's crappy about iTunes?

Mostly, no Linux support. I really want an open iTunes alternative which runs on Linux or any Unix, and can re-encode my entire music library with the codec/bitrate I want, while retaining music metadata . iTunes is good at that. Opus/Ogg support would be great. Anyone know of something like this?

You might like Clementine[1] it seems quite popular as an all-in-one music manager... though I usually use either `opusenc` or `fdkaac` via `ffmpeg` for transcoding with intact metadata.

[1] https://www.clementine-player.org/about

Re: YouTube now defaults to HTML5 video

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Post by iloveyouocean »

mhb wrote: post #124
koyote wrote: post #81

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Oh my god I completely forgot about RealPlayer. Luckily there was an alternative, Real Alternative, that enabled you to play the content without having to install that ghastly RealPlayer. It seems like the community always finds a way around crappy software.

What's the community using instead of iTunes?

Enqueue (available on Apple App Store) - simple, powerful interface, automatically finds/adds music to your library, support for many formats including FLAC

Re: YouTube now defaults to HTML5 video

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Post by mod »

gcp wrote: post #110
chambo622 wrote: post #95

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Netflix works fine in Chrome on Linux. What do you mean by "licensed only to selected companies?"

Chrome isn't an open source browser. Google is "one of the selected companies".

Correct. Netflix does NOT work in Chromium on linux (just tested).

Re: YouTube now defaults to HTML5 video

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Post by mod »

bzbarsky wrote: post #258
matthewmacleod wrote: post #83

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Out of interest, why is Firefox a 'proper' open-source browser while Chrome is not? Isn't Chrome pretty much just Chromium with a little bit of extra Google integration on top?

Last I checked, the bits of Chrome that aren't in Chromium are: 1) PDF viewer. 2) Flash. 3) Some audio/video codec support (e.g. Chromium has no support for MP3, AAC, H.264, or the MP4 container format; see " rel="nofollow">http://www.chromium.org/audio-video> ). 4) Crash reporting, metrics, that sort of thing. #1 and #2 are certainly closed-source. I can't speak to #3. [EDIT: as surrealize points out, #1 is no longe…

> From an end-user perspective, there's a significant difference between "browser that will play the music and the videos and show me the PDFs" and "browser that will not do those things". Chromium, while open source, is really not a viable end-user browser on today's internet.

I don't think so, because really it's a difference between "will show the pdf..." and "will launch a program to show the pdf."

As a full time Chromium user, I've had frustrations twice--once trying to figure out why Netflix didn't work after I had heard it "now worked on linux," and the other with an app called mightytext that was doing a very stupid redirect loop forever in Chromium, but not Chrome.

That's over the course of a year or so.

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Post by LLWM »

coldpie wrote: post #352
shenoyroopesh wrote: post #326

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But won't it be same if you look at percentages? Unless you hypothise that porn users not having flash installed is somehow a larger percentage compared to average web user not having flash installed?!

Don't forget Flash doesn't work on mobile ;)

This is by far the largest reason for the delay. If you watch some youtube videos on your work computer, no big deal. But if you need to jack off at work, you had better use your own phone if you care about keeping your job at all.

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Post by totony »

Houshalter wrote: post #325
pantulis wrote: post #274

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I stand corrected, then. Should watch more porn it seems :P

I tried it and they are still using flash, as is every other site I know of. Perhaps they mean there is an html5 option somewhere, but I don't see it.

Works for me (just tried it, was fun)

Try disabling adblock, it seems to break their html5 streaming.

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Post by Karunamon »

roel_v wrote: post #368
jsprogrammer wrote: post #343

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I'm saying that whoever was proving a violation would have to show infringing distribution of a protected work. Bit torrent pieces generally contain a small fraction of the total work, which could easily be fair use. You'd have to show that the person was actually transmitting a protected work against its license. That piece may have been a short clip in a more encompassing work. You won't know until you get more of…

Nope, still wrong (not 'arguably wrong', plain factually wrong). That's not how 'fair use' works - it's not because you send a part (what you call a 'clip') of a work, that it becomes fair use all of a sudden.

So legal question, when's the cutoff point? How many packets do you need to get before you've broken the law?

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Post by bla2 »

adwf wrote: post #208
bla2 wrote: post #198

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What does this reply even mean? Of course it's distributed as a binary -- should regular users compile it themselves? Advanced users can compile chromium if they want; from what I understand it's virtually identical to the chrome binary.

If the source code is not available and it's distributed as a binary, by definition it can't be open source. (Plus some might argue about OSS licensing too) Chromium may be OSS, but Chrome is not.

That's what I'm asking: For which part of Chrome is the source code not available?

Re: YouTube now defaults to HTML5 video

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Post by bzbarsky »

mod wrote: post #375
bzbarsky wrote: post #258

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Last I checked, the bits of Chrome that aren't in Chromium are: 1) PDF viewer. 2) Flash. 3) Some audio/video codec support (e.g. Chromium has no support for MP3, AAC, H.264, or the MP4 container format; see " rel="nofollow">http://www.chromium.org/audio-video> ). 4) Crash reporting, metrics, that sort of thing. #1 and #2 are certainly closed-source. I can't speak to #3. [EDIT: as surrealize points out, #1 is no longe…

> From an end-user perspective, there's a significant difference between "browser that will play the music and the videos and show me the PDFs" and "browser that will not do those things". Chromium, while open source, is really not a viable end-user browser on today's internet. I don't think so, because really it's a difference between "will show the pdf..." and "will launch a program to show the pdf." As a full time…

I've done some user support, and browsers showing PDFs in an external app instead of inline is an extremely common user complaint.

Not only that, but PDFs embedded via don't get shown in external apps in any browser. And this does in fact happen. For example, if you want to get your pay stubs or W2s via https://portal.adp.com you end up dealing with just such a setup.

I realize anecdotes aren't data, but this also applies to your anecdote; you're very much not a typical end user (starting with the fact that you're using Linux!).

I should note that "Netflix doesn't work" is probably a deal-breaker for the average user all on its own.

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