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Post by foobarqux »

luxpir wrote: post #308
foobarqux wrote: post #201

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you ever tried setting up Piwik? It's terrible software.

My opinion is different to yours. Piwik with Nginx was easy enough to set up and provides the data I am interested in, including conversions of goals (something I was dubious about before installing). New version even more snazzy than previous.

Setting up this server-side software requires GUI configuration. That's insane. The code looks nightmarish.

I'm sure it's fine from a functional perspective.

Re: Popcorn Time – Watch torrent movies instantly

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Post by abustamam »

jypepin wrote: post #238

Is there anywhere that explains how streaming from torrent works?

http://www.utorrent.com/help/faq/ut3#faq2

It works very similarly to streaming anything. When you think about streaming a video on Netflix, the server sends the movie data to your computer sequentially, so after it downloads maybe the first 4 minutes, your movie starts playing, and while your movie plays it continues to download the rest of the movie.

Streaming via torrent works similarly, except while the movie is playing, you're also seeding.

It's generally frowned upon to download sequentially via a torrent because normally, torrent "pieces" are downloaded randomly to ensure that all pieces are available to everyone evenly. Imagine if everyone were trying to download the same piece at the same time!

That's it in a nutshell!

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Post by wpietri »

gabriel34 wrote: post #367
wpietri wrote: post #225

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Do you have a demonstration of that effect? I'm not buying it from the words. With typical torrent use, you have to wait the entire download time before you can watch anything because the pieces are randomly selected. But adding streaming just means you have to bias toward the early pieces just enough to have a decent buffer. After that, you can still be random. The case of prime time seems to be better for this appr…

No, I don't have a demonstration since nothing like this was ever widely adopted, but it is an opinion shared among the bittorrent community: "One of the key algorithms in bittorrent is the rarest-first piece picker. It is vital to bittorrent’s performance that the piece picker fulfills both of these requirements: The rarest piece is picked (from the client’s point of view of the swarm) If two or more pieces have the…

I think that analysis only holds for people who want the whole package and aren't in a hurry.

If you're shifting to a demand-driven system, then pieces aren't needed equally. A numerically even piece distribution isn't what the swarm most needs. Indeed, I start watching things on Netflix that I never finish, so having more people with early pieces of something would better mirror actual demand for them.

I'm sure that plenty of people in the Bittorrent community are worried about change, but plenty of people in every community are worried about change. Until I see some math or some simulations demonstrating that this can't work, I won't be persuaded that there's an actual problem beyond the (reasonable and legitimate) fear of change.

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Post by speakme »

gabriel34 wrote: post #368
chrismcb wrote: post #351

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While B didn't agree to pay, B wanted to watch the works, (and C and D and and and) If B and C and D don't pay, then next time A won't make anything, and everyone loses.

Except A haven't stopped making things in spite of B's and C's and D's refusal to pay, because Z pays. Plus, from the get go, if there was a price tag attached to it, C and D wouldn't consume, only B and Z. So the loss is only of B's copy. C and D convinced X that A's product is good and X pays, offsetting B and more value is generated because more people watched the movie. I used to believe this was only theoretical…

By this rationale, if you had a way to sneak into concerts without buying a ticket, would you do so? If so, what percentage of the time? 100%? 50%? How would you decide?

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Post by speakme »

devcpp wrote: post #326
minikites wrote: post #131

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The musicians/recording engineers/conductor/support staff don't deserve to be paid?

If people aren't willing to, nope. This is a slippery slope and we can't afford to pay every employee of dying professions forever. I think utilities and reasonable physical safety and healthcare should be paid for by the people. But for the rest, the free market will work better than an infinity of laws and incentives to put people in a corner to pay up. Money, uh, finds a way...

> If people aren't willing to, nope.

The idea behind this comment is that if people don't care enough about the work to bother viewing it, the maker shouldn't be paid. Which I agree with; I hate the idea of government sponsorship of art no one wants. The difference here is, PEOPLE WANT THE ART, THEY JUST DON'T WANT TO PAY FOR IT. That's a huge distinction. It has value to people, but because they have the opportunity to steal it with no consequence, they do so.

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Post by cyloneyes »

rytis wrote: post #140
cheez wrote: post #101

I clicked "12 years a slave", a movie I have not yet had an opportunity to watch and it started streaming in less than a minute in high quality. I immediately quit the application as it should not be so easy to benefit from someone else's hard work without compensating them. Please, movie people, let me pay for this. You might kill the cinemas, but you'll still get paid.

Why does it always need to be about the money?? Imagine giving a candy to a child. You make the child happy, and that is your reward. Or do you expect the child to say something like "let me pay you"?...

fuck, you are dumb

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Post by meerita »

sosborn wrote: post #365
meerita wrote: post #364

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Let's say you live alone and you want to see a movie. You pay for it. Same if I want to do it at my home. we both pay and we have the legal right to see it. What if suddenly, 20 friends come to my home to see the movie without paying as they were in their homes? Downloading is the same case. That's what I mean. You can't have the best of both worlds. Either you all pay to see it or no one.

But when you buy it you have a license to show it to 20 friends in a setting like that as long as you aren't charging (at least in the U.S.). You are creating situations for the sake of this argument that simply don't exist.

You read the licence wrong. When you buy, rent, you're explicity forbid to do public playing: that means you cannot show other people the material, they have to pay for it. That way they're sure you dont mount a cinema in your home and invite the whole city.

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Post by sosborn »

meerita wrote: post #377
sosborn wrote: post #365

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But when you buy it you have a license to show it to 20 friends in a setting like that as long as you aren't charging (at least in the U.S.). You are creating situations for the sake of this argument that simply don't exist.

You read the licence wrong. When you buy, rent, you're explicity forbid to do public playing: that means you cannot show other people the material, they have to pay for it. That way they're sure you dont mount a cinema in your home and invite the whole city.

That's simply not true. Public playing means that you cannot go to a part and project on a screen (as an example). In the confines of your home is not considered public playing.

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Post by clienthunter »

watty wrote: post #47
clienthunter wrote: post #40

This seems waaaaaayyy too polished in all respects for an app designed to break the law. I would not be at all surprised if those prebuilt binaries were sending your details off to the MPAA.

The MPAA already has the ability to view torrent seeds, why would they waste so much resources to create this?

Binary blobs running on user boxes can collect direct, identifiable, evidence. Spying an IP address from afar that may or may not be proxied/NAT'd is flimsy circumstantial evidence at best.

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Post by Samizdata »

ThePawnBreak wrote: post #109
ollysb wrote: post #61

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The subtitles feature is a huge win for me. My partner is Spanish speaking so every film we watch requires a hunt through various subtitles sites(not being able to use srt files with likes the of iTunes is also a major issue when paying for films). Of course I know how to do it but it's one of those things that has really made we wish there was a good quality commercial offering(I'd be very happy to pay something lik…

VLC player has a plugin that can do this for you. It's called Vlsub. It doesn't check for synchronization, but you can try out about 3-4 subtitles in less than a minute, so it works very well in practice.

Also, check out Filebot. It does sub hunting and has organization and renaming facilities too.

English speaker, but I have hearing issues.

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