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Why I Will Never Go Back to the United States

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Re: Why I Will Never Go Back to the United States

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> and nearly as varied in customs, socioeconomics, and population as Europe. You can even stretch that to language in some parts of the USA. Try and get around South Miami without at least a smattering of Spanish language ability. 40 European languages: http://www.bbc.co.uk/languages/european_languages/languages/... (That's just for starters.) In my rural county in England we have something like 120 different languag…

I think you're deliberately misunderstanding me. And that's fine. I'm definitely detecting a bunch of do-as-I-say type of sentiment. But my mother fled a country (her European home country and the country of her birth) that tried to kill her and every one like her. SO...please pardon me if I don't agree to entertain your Europe is oh-so-much-better than the US diatribe. If one persons difficult experience can indict…

America is a big place. So is Europe. Everybody has something to be ashamed of. Nobody is perfect. National and regional virtues and vices are intrinsically multidimensional, and do not reduce to a single meritocratic scale. Is America "better" than Europe. Bottom. The question makes no sense, because the notion of "better" or "worse" does not apply.

I am from the UK.

Through time, both historically and more recently, my fellow countrymen have engaged in any number of ethically horrendous actions that disgust and offend my sense of what is right and proper. I don't want to be caught defending the concentration camps in 1950's Kenya. I don't want to be caught defending the (recent) off-hand murder of unarmed prisoners-of-war in Afghanistan.

By the same token, I am imperfect too. I don't want to be caught defending some of the things that I have done and said in the past.

There is no sense of righteousness driving this, just a generalised sense that the world is a slovenly place, and that leading a good, moral, conscientious life is beyond the abilities of most of us.

We all have a responsibility, as fellow human-beings, to support each other in our efforts to improve our world (no matter how futile those efforts might appear to be).

Re: Why I Will Never Go Back to the United States

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C'mon man. You just belittled America with four paragraphs. You don't like America? Fine. Stay where you are. I find it LAUGHABLE that you devote pages and pages of prose to tell me why my country isn't awesome. Seriously, you're an expert right? You DEFINITELY know how things are here. I know it's fashionable to bash the US on HN, but really, why do people just keep coming here? Why is immigration such a contentious…

> You don't like America? Fine. Stay where you are. It's not that I DON'T LIKE America, I am just disputing your claim that it's the absolute best place in the world. Your claim is ignorant, arrogant and full of hubris... even offensive to non-Americans. > Take a look in the mirror. Everything you hate about HERE you have over THERE without the benefit of CHOICE. Again, I don't HATE anything about America, I am just…

Life isn't fair. I accept your unconditional surrender.

Re: Why I Will Never Go Back to the United States

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There is "news" and there is "analysis" -- if you want to cite facts don't cite analysis from a publication that has a clear and stated bias. Usually the way AP and Reuters works is clients run what they write or "analyze" what they write. Why cite analysis if you want facts? Not trying to be adversarial here, just trying to understand what you are saying

All publications have a strong bias. Isn't it better to cite from those that state their bias clearly so that the reader is better able to interpret what they are reading, than from those who mislead by pretending to be 'unbiased'?

Short answer: no.

Re: Why I Will Never Go Back to the United States

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Well, if you come through looking like a ski bum with all of your worldly possessions in your back seat then you shouldn't either try to tell the border patrol that you're a wealthy tourist getting ready to kick the US economy into high gear with your lavish spending! That being said, I'm getting super psyched for ski season and have been wanting to head to Canada this year. Recommend any good places within or near O…

> Recommend any good places near Ontario? Unfortunately, Ontario is as flat as a pancake. You really need to come out West, and you can't go wrong. All the resorts in the West are getting dumped on right now, and everyone's loving it. BC is where it's at for Canadian skiiing.

Ah, well that is good to know - thank you! I have been thinking of heading to Whistler but it's just quite a trek for me to get there (from Chicago). It looks fantastic.

Re: Why I Will Never Go Back to the United States

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post #363

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All publications have a strong bias. Isn't it better to cite from those that state their bias clearly so that the reader is better able to interpret what they are reading, than from those who mislead by pretending to be 'unbiased'?

Short answer: no.

Fair enough. You prefer the mainstream perspective to others. That is a common point of view.
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