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Re: This is a web page

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Post by grey-area »

Myrmornis wrote: post #335
pg wrote: post #330

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If that's all you have to say, better to say nothing.

I respectfully disagree with this ethos of positivity or nothing. Criticism is a valuable thing. We don't want our discourse to resemble some sort of Christian summer camp.

If you have a criticism, try to expand on it and produce something others might find interesting as a counterpoint. Constructive criticism can be very useful, but just choosing an epithet as you have done here adds nothing and is not valuable criticism.

Re: This is a web page

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Post by Nux »

Ecio78 wrote: post #346
gbog wrote: post #259

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And Astalavista.

yep, astalavista.box.sk, still remember the full domain by heart... :) Edit: OMG it's still alive..

Of course it's alive. Check the whois data for that IP, hosted by "ANTIK Telecom". :-)

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Post by teh_klev »

thejosh wrote: post #281
teh_klev wrote: post #271

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Back in the day you bought magazines like ".NET" (a UK publication) that told you where the hotspots were on the web. There were other physical publications like the "Internet White Pages" or some such thing (no seriously) which I remember seeing in UK bookshops and thinking "that's gonna be outa date in a week or two". Back then you felt you could contain all of the websites (or pointer sites) in your head. It was t…

Ah yes, you are probably referring to the Internet Yellow Pages[1], use to be one of my favourite things to use at a library and write down websites.. http://i.imgur.com/1n6mH4N.jpg

That one as well. But there was also "The 1994 Internet White Pages" published by Wiley Press which is credited with Seth Godin as a co-author [1][2].

[1]: http://i.imgur.com/HxDWs9c.jpg [2]: http://amzn.com/1568843003

Re: This is a web page

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Post by mickeyp »

euxneks wrote: post #249
petercooper wrote: post #239

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Because other people have given good answers, I just wanted to add.. the Web was so much better linked together back then. Prior to Altavista made searching useful most of the time, it was common to rely on jumping from one site to another through plentiful link pages, web rings, and lists of resources that people had put together. There was also Usenet which people often posted links on and which was sorted by topic…

ah.. web rings.. I remember babylon 5 web rings... Nostalgia's a hell of a thing.

Web Rings were amazing though; found a great site about X-Files plot theories? -- no problem, chances are you'd find more that were like that by following the web ring. We lost something back then that, even today, we never really got back...

Re: This is a web page

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Post by jbert »

derleth wrote: post #352
hobs wrote: post #331

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September What should we do about it?

Implying we should 'fix' Eternal September is pretty close to implying we should keep important technology out of the hands of those the current users deem unworthy. That prevents both spam and the Arab Spring, both 4chan and Wikileaks. Keeping the Internet as it was prior to 1991, when commercial access was first allowed, means keeping it a small, controlled entity with obvious choke points that make it trivial to c…

> Implying we should 'fix' Eternal September is pretty close to implying we should keep important technology out of the hands of those the current users deem unworthy. That prevents both spam and the Arab Spring, both 4chan and Wikileaks.

Not necessarily. The holy grail is growth where culture is preserved, i.e. the rate of acquisition of new users is below the point where they overwhelm the culture.

New users acculturate over time and exposure, so you can roughly model it as "at any time, no more than x% of the users should be 'new'".

That's still exponential growth, so it needn't be elitest. In time, you'll still get to everyone who wants in.

Making it work tho, that's the rub :-)

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Post by alex_hitchins »

weixiyen wrote: post #73
adventured wrote: post #69

"At it's heart, web design should be about words." No. The web is not just a place for text / words, that is not its heart and soul, and therefore neither is that the case for web design. It really never has been. I see no great argument in favor of words being the core over any other form of expression. Today's bandwidth more than allows for beautiful video, animation, high quality graphics and photos, etc. Or low k…

change "words" to "content".

A good example - http://stallman.org/

Horrendous on the eye but gives everything you need. And more.

Re: This is a web page

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Post by lmm »

teh_klev wrote: post #261
kmfrk wrote: post #255

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I feel like such a hipster for having used AltaVista and Dogpile as search engines.

What is hipster about that? Your statement makes no sense. I'm 46 and started using the "internet" in 1992 - usenet, gopher, FTP et al. Then came the World Wide Web". Altavista was really all there was before google, why is that "hipster"? That's like saying you were a hipster for using horse and carriage before Henry Ford started mass producing cars. If anything being an early adopter of Google seems more "hipster"…

To have used Altavista or Dogpile one must have either been on the internet before it was cool, or made a deliberately retro choice of search engine. Either qualifies for hipsterdom.

Re: This is a web page

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Post by StavrosK »

joe24pack wrote: post #260
kmfrk wrote: post #255

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I feel like such a hipster for having used AltaVista and Dogpile as search engines.

Hipster huh? Well what about Lycos, remember that search engine?

Remember the search aggregators, like Magellan (maybe Columbus? Something like that) that searched X different engines and aggregated the results in a desktop app for you to use?

Then I found Google, and I never used anything else again.

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