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That doesn't really speak to the issue. Please answer my question about me describing myself as a singer. Would you feel I was being dishonest as describing myself as such?
Not at all. It doesn't matter if you sang for 10 minutes or for 100 hours. There is no magic threshold number. If you identify yourself as a singer, you can claim to be one legitimately. You would only be dishonest if you claimed to be a professional singer or a regular singer.
LayerVault Sends DMCA Takedown Letter re Flat-UI
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#372Re: LayerVault Sends DMCA Takedown Letter re Flat-UI
#373Earlier quoted context omitted.
The dictator doesn't have to be multiple countries, but a dictator for at least a while. Would someone who was a dictator for a day but was otherwise a civil servant for 30 years be called a dictator? I wouldn't say so. You can say he was a dictator for a short time, but not just "a dictator" without that context.
Wouldn't it be correct to call him a dictator the day that he was a dictator? My point being is that as long as LV are engaged in what you say is "one act of trolling", then they can be called trolls.
This whole thread (and my objections to the use of language here) was based on onemorepassword's comment[0] that ended with a definitive "LayerVault are copyright trolls and bullies", which I read as speaking to their core and not just what they're doing at the moment.
Maybe omp has knowledge of LV having a past history of copyright trolling, but I don't think it's a fair statement to make based on one bad-faith filing, as abhorrent as that move was.
Re: LayerVault Sends DMCA Takedown Letter re Flat-UI
#374Am I the only one here who sees nothing wrong with copying icons? Layer Vault doesn't own the things they freely display for others to imitate. I'm repulsed at the idea of "owning" a visual depiction of a fucking newspaper. And yes, I've worked for years of my life as a designer. I know what if feels like to have people copy you.
Re: LayerVault Sends DMCA Takedown Letter re Flat-UI
#375anyone manage to clone the repo?
I found a link to it... please only use for investigative purposes: http://ge.tt/19rXMGa/v/0?c
Re: LayerVault Sends DMCA Takedown Letter re Flat-UI
#376And here's a reply from Allan: https://news.layervault.com/stories/1992-layervault-whats-up... Looks like the pitchforks are out over on HN. It was pretty straightforward. Our reaction was "Cool, a flat UI theme" to "Wait, this looks familiar" to "Wait, are those our illustrations?". I contacted the designmodo people over email, because that's the right way to handle this. The owner was being stubborn at first and re…
Wow, I never looked at DN before and I don't think I will start now. In that thread they come across as thuggish scumbags who don't care about evidence and believe that anyone should be able to use the legal system to bulldoze competitors doing "similar" work. Also, this Allan guy whoever he is, is dripping with self-importance.
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#377Earlier quoted context omitted.
That looks pretty much open and shut, as if using a vague DMCA in itself wasn't already enough of a hint. It's not even a rip-off. The basic pattern for the icons is insanely generic, and the execution is clearly different. The color scheme is a very common one. It bears a resemblance as much as one black leather shoe bears a resemblance to another black leather shoe. It's not even worth making a passing remark about…
I can't believe that the threshold for a DMCA notice claim is simply that LayerVault is the sole owner of the works. No where did LayerVault specify which works they were claiming (aside from saying the whole thing was theirs) which it obviously isn't based upon the differences.
It's a solemn legal claim, with consequences if they lie.
And the people claimed against can file a counter claim.
(DMCA is a terrible law, and needs to be fixed.)
Re: LayerVault Sends DMCA Takedown Letter re Flat-UI
#378Re: LayerVault Sends DMCA Takedown Letter re Flat-UI
#379Am I the only one here who sees nothing wrong with copying icons? Layer Vault doesn't own the things they freely display for others to imitate. I'm repulsed at the idea of "owning" a visual depiction of a fucking newspaper. And yes, I've worked for years of my life as a designer. I know what if feels like to have people copy you.
I'm not into people directly using the exact files I create myself (I mean, do your own work). But I don't think anybody owns the idea of "three cogs", "a newspaper that curls to the left", or "a head with a speech bubble". Don't get me started on things like Coke owning a particular part of the red light spectrum... Value comes from solving problems, not from a font, or a colour, or a texture, or a style.
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#380But then designmodo would absolutely be forced to defend itself and layervault would be liable in court.
DMCA is a bunch of bullshit.