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Re: Twitter Viewer – View Twitter Without Account

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cpt_sobel wrote: post #246
jm4 wrote: post #74

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The Reddit thing is disappointing. I stopped being a user a long time ago, but their links often show up in search results. I started noticing I couldn't see the page without logging in. I ended up blocking Reddit in my search results. It's not worth it.

At least for now Reddit doesn't require neither phone number nor email address (I think)

It requires email now. It used to not. And if you don't want to be shadowbanned you also need phone, and if you want to view NSFW you need government ID.

Re: Twitter Viewer – View Twitter Without Account

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Post by inigyou »

hparadiz wrote: post #266
nlitened wrote: post #245

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I think Pareto principle applies here: most discussions will be shallow, only occasionally diving deep — and Twitter acknowledges that reality, and builds around it.

The real problem is that places like HN and Reddit allow downvotes / reports to drown people out. Someone on Twitter will post on their page. They control it. It can be slop. It can be low quality. It can be their random thoughts but all that is irrelevant while you slowly build up your audience and the stuff you wanna work on. This generally takes time and is something that grows organically. Meanwhile on HN I will…

Substack is about posting on your page. Twitter is about posting on other people's pages in the reply section.

Re: Twitter Viewer – View Twitter Without Account

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Post by inigyou »

swyx wrote: post #170
andrewmutz wrote: post #50

Anyone know the specifics of how this works under the hood? I assumed the people over at Twitter/X would aggressively block systems like this from working. Are they doing something creative to get around that?

sad that i come here for technical information and yours is the first lonely comment asking about how this works

On most of these sites you can just copy the requests the browser makes. There's a walls and ladders game going on, but all the easy to implement walls aren't very high so most sites don't bother building the tallest one possible.

You can start by making a burner account and viewing some pages in a browser and watching the developer network tab. Either you'll see some dynamic JSON request that fetches the main page content, or it'll be in the initial page request. In either case you can copy that request and parse it. If it's in the initial page then it's in HTML so parse it with BeautifulSoup or similar. A minority of sites are using TLS fingerprinting, so try curl-impersonate if plain curl doesn't work.

At least in Firefox I suggest right click "copy as cURL [command]" and then delete parts of the command to see what's actually needed to get the data, or copy the whole exact thing if you're worried about getting fingerprinted based on the parts you deleted.

There's certainly some kind of auth cookie or token. How long does it last? Maybe 15 minutes, an hour, a day, forever? If it's not forever there's a way to refresh it so look through the network requests again, or maybe the network requests when you log in.

If you get rate limited it's probably by IP address and you can try a few things. Rebooting your router to change IP? If you have IPv6 you can change your address arbitrarily within a /64 and if the site is really dumb it will consider that a new IP, but most know about that. If your ISP gives you a /48 or /56 you can change subnet. You can try running on cloudflare workers or Amazon lambda, which have big IP pools that continually churn. Some sites that use cloudflare may exempt all of cloudflare from rate limiting and you may greatly benefit from running on a cloudflare worker. You can try a mobile connection that may use CGNAT, forcing the site to choose between unblocking you or blocking your carrier. If all else fails, residential proxy access is either very cheap or very expensive to buy, depending on how much data you need to move.

In the end you just need to try it and see.

Re: Twitter Viewer – View Twitter Without Account

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Post by inigyou »

SXX wrote: post #14
thehamkercat wrote: post #12

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twitterwebviewer.com was registered in Hong Kong according to https://www.whois.com/whois/twitterwebviewer.com Looks fine, they don't care about the notices i guess

.com domain zone is managed by Verysign US company. They will just C&D them.

It's a step up. Texas took down a Dutch porn site that way, but it was a Texas court order, not a random company sending C&D.

Re: Twitter Viewer – View Twitter Without Account

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Post by inigyou »

john_strinlai wrote: post #34
doublepg23 wrote: post #25

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I guess my brain has been cooked by internet libertarianism but what's the basis of a C&D for proxying a website? Is the legal basis just copyright of the contents?

i dont know the legal basis used, or the validity. i just know that i wouldnt want to have to spend the time or money fighting twitter over it

You don't have to fight a C&D, you can ignore it. But they may sue you and you have to fight that. But they can also sue you without a C&D or even after you comply with one. The C&D itself has no effect, but it's the equivalent of a gangster pointing at his own eyeballs and then yours, "I'm watching you."

Re: Twitter Viewer – View Twitter Without Account

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Post by inigyou »

futhey wrote: post #233

Not sure how this is even possible but the trending box for Taiwan just shows the Thailand trending searches in a different order... And worldwide trending searches are predominantly... in Greek?

That's probably where the accounts they use are from.

Re: Twitter Viewer – View Twitter Without Account

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Post by inigyou »

msephton wrote: post #307
trompetenaccoun wrote: post #179

The X account of the person running this has been suspended. https://x.com/PeterAndersonE

Doing it was always risky. Doing it and making money from it was always going to end in a ban.

It's legal though. See SerpAPI for precedent. Google was really bummed about losing that one.

It's also legal for X to pressure you in many ways to stop doing a legal thing, to take technical measures to prevent you from doing it, and to ban your account on X.

Re: Twitter Viewer – View Twitter Without Account

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Post by inigyou »

JuniperMesos wrote: post #296
pfraze wrote: post #150

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New account, 4 comments, one includes “Musk’s takeover of Twitter was a net win for free speech”

Musk's takeover of Twitter was in fact a net win for free speech, in large part because it encouraged large numbers of people to actually abandon the platform and post on somewhat-more-censorship-resistent platforms instead, which those people would not have done if the previous management of Twitter had continued to operate it.

Not enough though. Whats 20% times +10 free speech points, plus 80% times -50?

Re: Twitter Viewer – View Twitter Without Account

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Post by inigyou »

fuzzfactor wrote: post #342
seebeegeebee wrote: post #190

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Yes, burn the witch!!! How dare someone disagree with our MSM opinions!

That's quite an MSM opinion you've got there. I would say don't burn anything, especially not an innocent neophyte without an ounce of maturity who doesn't know right from wrong yet. I'm certainly not going to downvote them either, and surely not silently, that would be kind of chickenshit. Plus it's like their opinion, man. OTOH who needs a "witch hunt" when it's self-described. When you think about it lots of peopl…

You should downvote nonsense comments. That's how moderation works here.
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