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Re: Canada will match US tariffs 'dollar for dollar' as trade talks break down

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Post by win311fwg » Sat, Aug 22, 2026, 1:53 PM UTC

fidotron wrote: post #173

bhouston wrote: post #121

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> This was totally the right move, if for no other reason than it's the only thing that this US admin will respect in the long run. Unfortunately, Canada (where I live) will feel way more pain from this than the US. I am not sure Trump will have respect for this at all, but the alternative was to put in a permanent trade deal that significant disadvantaged Canada.

There is also the factor that Canada has been propping up unsustainable dead end industries on a massive scale for years, and that this will make any pain from such a situation, deal or no deal, that much worse. Most obviously Southern Ontario is living in a dreamland where inexplicably ICE autos remain a viable industry ad infinitum. Some forced reality, by any means, will in the long run prove to be welcome.

Autos are more obvious than the dairy industry, even though Trump claimed a couple of days ago that the reason there was an imminent deal is because Canada allegedly agreed to eliminate dairy tariffs? Trade negotiations have stalled almost certainly because Canada isn't actually willing to give up dairy tariffs.

Re: Canada will match US tariffs 'dollar for dollar' as trade talks break down

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Post by Jcampuzano2 » Sat, Aug 22, 2026, 1:53 PM UTC

brador wrote: post #339

watutalkinbout wrote: post #159

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You still think any of his moves are driven by 'what's good for the US'? I think it's motivated entirely by schemes to stuff his pockets with money.

He wakes up and flips a coin. He doesn’t care anyway and there’s no consequences.

If it was a coin flip, there'd be a 50% chance he did good things every day and we'd have a significantly better outcome than we do now. Its many times worse than a coin clip.

Re: Canada will match US tariffs 'dollar for dollar' as trade talks break down

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Post by sanderjd » Sat, Aug 22, 2026, 1:54 PM UTC

morkalork wrote: post #367

sanderjd wrote: post #305

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We, in the US, might be able to sustain this longer economically, but Canadians can sustain this longer politically.

Well it's 73 days till the midterm elections so we'll see what happens. Signing a bad deal when the political landscape could dramatically change in a few weeks never made sense.

Yes. Same calculation the Iranians are making. Everyone knows the US election schedule and can read polls.

Re: Canada will match US tariffs 'dollar for dollar' as trade talks break down

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Post by nekusar » Sat, Aug 22, 2026, 1:54 PM UTC

Ya know, there's not a damned thing I can do about any of this, other than TRY to get citizenship elsewhere and leave this shithole.

And fascism is taking hold lots of other places as well. Canada's a laugh, with Alberta seperatism. And they also had trump trucker caravans.

EU? They're boiling in their own juices with the fact they now need air conditioning due to climate devastation... And many countries make it illegal without health reasons.

Japan and SK are both doing very poorly. China has some of the harshest immigration.

South America is still being fucked with by the CIA and destabilization idiocy.

I understand the tune-out check-out hippie response. There's fuck-all I can do, other than watch.

Re: Canada will match US tariffs 'dollar for dollar' as trade talks break down

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Post by gWPVhyxPHqvk » Sat, Aug 22, 2026, 1:54 PM UTC

TheSkyHasEyes wrote: post #362

fidotron wrote: post #104

This was totally the right move, if for no other reason than it's the only thing that this US admin will respect in the long run. Being in Canada though this does look v. short sighted of the US. All this is going to achieve is pushing Canada much closer to other countries, particularly China, which at least superficially these negotiations were meant to prevent.

> All this is going to achieve is pushing Canada much closer to other countries The world is watching this story just like the world watched Davos. Last night will encourage further decoupling of the US for nations other than Canada. idk if Trump 2028 will happen or not. I will say with conviction no matter who is in office by then will not rebuild trust around the world in their tenure. Too much damage is done to th…

> I will say with conviction no matter who is in office by then will not rebuild trust around the world in their tenure. Too much damage is done to the US's reputation.

The only way that the US can start rebuilding this trust is that the incoming Democratic President and Congress (assuming we are so lucky) immediately starts by prosecuting Trump and his family (and results in actual jail time, not just fines or small stays), zero out their government contracts, fire most of the people installed in government since 2025, expand the Supreme Court, and remove the fillibuster. I know people think ideas like that are extreme, but really, what else is going to convince the rest of the world that the US has cleaned up their act? It has to start at home first.

Re: Canada will match US tariffs 'dollar for dollar' as trade talks break down

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Post by whatsThisBtn4 » Sat, Aug 22, 2026, 1:55 PM UTC

atherton94027 wrote: post #109

whatsThisBtn4 wrote: post #105

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Why put Zohran in the same bag as trump? From what I can see NYC is running pretty well

Look up the definition of populist demagogue.

Re: Canada will match US tariffs 'dollar for dollar' as trade talks break down

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Post by bryanlarsen » Sat, Aug 22, 2026, 1:55 PM UTC

robmccoll wrote: post #122

Huh 30% of our lumber just got 50% more expensive. Good thing we don't have shortages of affordable housing that need new construction to solve. Brilliant stuff Donald. Truly some 4D chess moves.

Price is set at the margin. If America is physically incapable of supplying 100% of its own lumber needs, then that Canadian lumber is the marginal good, and the price of 100% of lumber will go up, not just the Canadian stuff.

Two things that will prevent that:

- inertia

- it's likely that Canadian lumber before the tariffs wasn't the marginal good, wasn't the highest cost supplier. If Canadian suppliers were making 10% more profit than the previously marginal supplier, the price will go up 40% instead of 50%, Canadian suppliers absorbing that 10%.

Re: Canada will match US tariffs 'dollar for dollar' as trade talks break down

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Post by notahacker » Sat, Aug 22, 2026, 1:55 PM UTC

627467 wrote: post #321

bad_haircut72 wrote: post #301

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Europe/Canada should ban chatgpt/anthropic and say "ok we will use chinese models for our vibe coding I guess" and watch the stock market implode overnight. Remenber when they tried to ban non-US citizens from using Fable? best to remove that sword of damocles now regardless

This has always been an option pre-AI (block MS, block Google, etc). They never done that before why would they do that now?

The US wasn't, for the most part, treating them as an adversary before

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Post by jszymborski » Sat, Aug 22, 2026, 1:56 PM UTC

chadgpt3 wrote: post #144

Phelinofist wrote: post #40

Good for Canada, quite a shame the EU folded so easily

These countries need to grow a spine and make violating American copyright legal, or at least remove their anti circumvention laws.

I think that's how you get the US to declare war :P

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Post by locallost » Sat, Aug 22, 2026, 1:59 PM UTC

philistine wrote: post #213

locallost wrote: post #130

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I also had this idea, but it can't be something you can get in another place. But for something like potash it might work. But I think overall it does not really matter. A war is a war, so there will be no real winners. Here we go again.

Québec makes 80% of the world’s maple syrup. You pretty much can’t get it anywhere else.

Sure, but I am also not sure it's really that essential. People can grumble and either pay or not buy. Potash cannot really be not used in modern agriculture.