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The case for physical media ownership

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Re: The case for physical media ownership

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I purchased it, and you're taking it away? Then either I didn't actually purchase it (despite the word appearing in the notice), or you're stealing it from me. Which is it, Sony?

This isn’t that difficult. You purchased the ability to use it while they let you, and yes, it was in the terms.

A restaurant can't opt out of food safety by putting "not for human consumption" in the fine print.

Re: The case for physical media ownership

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Unfortunately many game disks only contain a downloader nowadays and you often need to bind them to an account to play. Plus the version on disk without updates is probably buggy. Baldur's Gate 3 Collector's edition is an example that has a disk, but isn't really any better than a Steam key. On the other hand you can back up a DRM free download, like the games on GOG, despite these being a purely digital download. So…

It's disgusting how a previously open platform for gaming (PC) was turned into what it's become with Steam. Young people either don't know or don't care that it used to be the norm to buy and install a game without a middleman "service".

Yes and gamers keep hailing Gabe as their savior just because hes not quite as bad as the competition that has shown up since then.

Re: The case for physical media ownership

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The problem today it's hard to convince even myself to pay the storage premium, but I 100% agree with you.

Premium? Sure things are more expensive but you can get 1TB hdd for 25-30 eur. You don't need an ssd and I'm sure you can find second hand drives even cheaper (or larger). Starting a subscription is money down the drain.

A 1TB HDD doesn't store that many high bit-rate 4K movies.

Re: The case for physical media ownership

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It's disgusting how a previously open platform for gaming (PC) was turned into what it's become with Steam. Young people either don't know or don't care that it used to be the norm to buy and install a game without a middleman "service".

That argument has been harder to make with time. A couple years ago I made the difficult decision to get rid of some old game copies. I wasn't realistically going to use them ever again, and the sentimental value for me is entirely about the memory, not the media. Part of my steam collection is nearly as old and it is on track to greatly outlast. It is also significantly easier to own and use in just about every aspe…

Steam was beneficial for small devs who otherwise had no good distribution options and were way too easy targets for piracy.

Otherwise, it's just a pain. Like my favorite PC game Age of Empires 2 was a CD, then when they finally remade it, it was like oh you gotta sign up for Steam first, and now you gotta launch this adware to play your game, which btw is an entire Chrome browser, and sometimes it'll refuse to launch your stuff too. Then several game publishers made their own Steam-like launchers except even worse. The situation is worse now, good thing I don't really care about video games anymore.

Re: The case for physical media ownership

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I love physical media as a ritual, but loathe it as a storage medium - it's fragile, it rots, and manufacturers can't be trusted to create long-lasting products anymore. Not to mention the fact that UHD drives used to rip modern content are almost entirely defunct, with the remaining few going for nearly half a grand in the current climate. Personally, in light of AI getting a hand-wave on massive piracy for training…

> Not to mention the fact that UHD drives used to rip modern content are almost entirely defunct, with the remaining few going for nearly half a grand in the current climate.

Protip: All BDXL drives have the necessary hardware to read UHD discs.

Re: The case for physical media ownership

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Discs can rot, but I would still take a large blu-ray collection over a large MKV collection stored digitally. The odds that your entire blu-ray collection will all rot are much lower than a catastrophic data loss. And most people are not good enough sysadmins to keep a collection of digital files from being lost over decades. And even more so when the digital files are pirated, which makes them more or less fungible…

Seems to me you could own the disc and rip them to tick all the boxes. You bought it. You can lend it to someone. You can easily pull it up in the living room. Etc

Exactly. The discs are a display piece and the backup of last resort. For everything else, a rip is more convenient.

Re: The case for physical media ownership

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It seems like more and more people are moving back to physical media, I'm seeing more blu-rays and DVDs at retailers. There are just too many streaming services, each with distinct catalogs which creates two problems: it's too difficult to find specific titles when you know what you want to watch, and it's too difficult to find anything worth watching when you don't. I'm not someone who keeps the TV on in the backgro…

>It seems like more and more people are moving back to physical media, Your physical media should be hard drives. The 20tb drives are at my sweet spot, I don't feel like I'm wasting a bay to put one of those in it. haugene/transmission-openvpn in docker is bulletproof, you'll never get an ISP email. Stream it with Plex/Emby to any device anywhere, yours or friends'. Use RAID for some redundancy if you can afford it.…

Quality 20TB drives are almost a grand these days :(

Re: The case for physical media ownership

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>It seems like more and more people are moving back to physical media, Your physical media should be hard drives. The 20tb drives are at my sweet spot, I don't feel like I'm wasting a bay to put one of those in it. haugene/transmission-openvpn in docker is bulletproof, you'll never get an ISP email. Stream it with Plex/Emby to any device anywhere, yours or friends'. Use RAID for some redundancy if you can afford it.…

Quality 20TB drives are almost a grand these days :(

Just a few years ago, you could have gotten the three 30tb golds for that.

Re: The case for physical media ownership

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There are also non-transferrable passkeys which can't be copied between two secure devices, so it'd be hard to get some passkeys onto your yubikey in the first place. Furthermore, I personally feel that if you can't actually access the bits, you don't truly "own" it.

> so it'd be hard to get some passkeys onto your yubikey in the first place. It's as easy to get a passkey on it as it was to originally create the first passkey. That's the thing with them. You can make a bunch. It was just as easy to add the first passkey as it was the second and third and fourth and fifth and.... The point is to not reuse the same passkey everywhere. Same idea as not using the same password everyw…

Okay let me withdraw slightly. What I mean is: if I choose of my own free will to not be able to access the bits (e.g. via a cryptoprocessor) then sure, I can still "own" it. And that's the case for certificate authorities. But when vendors force me (with remote attestation) to not be able to access the bits, then I see that as me not having control => me not owning the key.

Re: The case for physical media ownership

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You don't consider WebAuthn to be passkeys? Why not?

Passkeys are a subtype of WebAuthn keys, not vice versa.

be that as it may, when e.g. TicketMaster asks me if I want to "use a passkey," they are potentially referring to something with remote attestation capabilities.
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