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Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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Post by Slow_Hand »

loloquwowndueo wrote: post #367
Slow_Hand wrote: post #361

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does it automatically filter my email into tabs for primary, promotions, social, and updates? Cause that is the single most useful feature offered by Gmail that I have yet to find elsewhere. I'm not talking about manually tagging, setting up, and filtering all incoming email before my inbox can self-organize. I mean automatically. Only show me the true primary items in my inbox from the jump. Everything else can wait…

Mash that unsubscribe button my dude.

I unsubscribe aggressively. I keep my inbox well maintained, but that's still not the feature I'm talking about.

My work sends me several shipping notifications a day, but they are not priorities. They are emails to be reviewed later in the day. I don't want push notifications for them. I don't want them in my primary inbox. Gmail (without me telling it to) puts them in the "updates" tab.

Same for the promotional emails that come in. They go in "promotions".

If I get a 2FA email or an update on a social website they are sorted in the "social" tab without my having to set anything up.

This is extraordinarily helpful for managing my email, and it is absent in every client I have tried.

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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Post by cadamsdotcom »

Slow_Hand wrote: post #361
cadamsdotcom wrote: post #327

Looking for your alternative? Let me give you some (non financially motivated) praise for Fastmail. It has everything Gmail has - even app passwords, hide my email, and ios integration. The only criticism is the calendar doesn’t autocomplete addresses so that’s a bit more typing than I would like. But everything you do in Fastmail is instant . They live up to the name! Once you try it and go back, you’ll be shocked -…

Does it automatically filter my email into tabs for primary, promotions, social, and updates? Cause that is the single most useful feature offered by Gmail that I have yet to find elsewhere. I'm not talking about manually tagging, setting up, and filtering all incoming email before my inbox can self-organize. I mean automatically. Only show me the true primary items in my inbox from the jump. Everything else can wait…

No it doesn’t.

But luckily you’re about 5 email filter rules away from your ideal setup.

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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Post by ghaff »

loloquwowndueo wrote: post #367
Slow_Hand wrote: post #361

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does it automatically filter my email into tabs for primary, promotions, social, and updates? Cause that is the single most useful feature offered by Gmail that I have yet to find elsewhere. I'm not talking about manually tagging, setting up, and filtering all incoming email before my inbox can self-organize. I mean automatically. Only show me the true primary items in my inbox from the jump. Everything else can wait…

Mash that unsubscribe button my dude.

I don't want to unsubscribe from everything that I might not be interested in at the moment but may want to skim now and then to various degrees. I find gmail is very effective for that sort of thing. I find gmail's tabs pretty useful.

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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Post by EchoReflection »

Slow_Hand wrote: post #361
cadamsdotcom wrote: post #327

Looking for your alternative? Let me give you some (non financially motivated) praise for Fastmail. It has everything Gmail has - even app passwords, hide my email, and ios integration. The only criticism is the calendar doesn’t autocomplete addresses so that’s a bit more typing than I would like. But everything you do in Fastmail is instant . They live up to the name! Once you try it and go back, you’ll be shocked -…

Does it automatically filter my email into tabs for primary, promotions, social, and updates? Cause that is the single most useful feature offered by Gmail that I have yet to find elsewhere. I'm not talking about manually tagging, setting up, and filtering all incoming email before my inbox can self-organize. I mean automatically. Only show me the true primary items in my inbox from the jump. Everything else can wait…

yes. Fastmail can "automatically" do that, if you configure it to have those rules.

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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Post by Slow_Hand »

EchoReflection wrote: post #375
Slow_Hand wrote: post #361

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does it automatically filter my email into tabs for primary, promotions, social, and updates? Cause that is the single most useful feature offered by Gmail that I have yet to find elsewhere. I'm not talking about manually tagging, setting up, and filtering all incoming email before my inbox can self-organize. I mean automatically. Only show me the true primary items in my inbox from the jump. Everything else can wait…

yes. Fastmail can "automatically" do that, if you configure it to have those rules.

If I configure my rules today and then tomorrow I sign up for a new site do I have to amend my rules to also filter the new site? Because that's too much manual management. It's not a lot for a single site, yes, but x10 new sites a month it is too much. It's death by 1,000 cuts.

I don't ever have to do it with Gmail, and that is a tremendous amount of time saved. It is a lifesaver.

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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Post by ghaff »

Slow_Hand wrote: post #371
loloquwowndueo wrote: post #367

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mash that unsubscribe button my dude.

I unsubscribe aggressively. I keep my inbox well maintained, but that's still not the feature I'm talking about. My work sends me several shipping notifications a day, but they are not priorities. They are emails to be reviewed later in the day. I don't want push notifications for them. I don't want them in my primary inbox. Gmail (without me telling it to) puts them in the "updates" tab. Same for the promotional ema…

Exactly. I do unsubscribe--perhaps not as aggressively as I should--but there's a ton of stuff I may want to be aware of that I don't want polluting my primary mailbox. Sometimes I even shift them to my primary tab but, in general, I'm happy with keeping my primary to stuff that I generally do mostly care about and have a few other categories I care about to varying degrees.

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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Post by tambourine_man »

I only ever use Gmail's backend. I've been using it for years with Mail.app on both Mac and iOS. Every time I load the web interface I'm appalled.

Not that Mail.app is amazing. It sometimes corrupts its sqlite db (I have 300k+ emails dating back to the late 90s). But it's still way better than the dreadful web interface that only seems to get worse and slower.

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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Post by dsissitka »

green_wheel wrote: post #71

> This time I’m doing things the right way by connecting my own domain to a mail host. I’m currently with Fastmail since they were by far the most popular option when I asked for suggestions on the fediverse. Question for the general public: why Fastmail over Proton?

Proton apps are very janky in comparison. For example:

  You open Proton Mail.

  You'd like to read the second email in your inbox so you hit J a couple times.

  Nothing happens.

  J/K don't work unless an email is already selected so you use your mouse instead.

  You hit T to move the email to the trash.

  You'd like to read the next email so you hit J.

  Nothing happens.

  Hitting T didn't leave you with a selected email so J/K don't work.
There are a lot of issues like this.
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